Comment by josteink
13 years ago
Every Maccard on the planet seems to think pirating OS X is an oh so terrible thing to do (to the point that parent post is bringing up poems about it like its a cute, non-weird thing). At the same time pirating everything else on the planet seemingly is OK.
I've never understood the rationale behind this.
Keep in mind I'm a software developer myself and run strictly non-pirated software, and open-source as much as possible. You could never make me replace a Linux desktop with a limited OS X experience, and I see no reason what so ever to put in the effort to pirate it.
But why is it worse to pirate a OS with bad hardware-support out of the box than pirating... say Microsoft Office? I'm just curious what's up with that.
>Every Maccard on the planet seems to think pirating OS X is an oh so terrible thing to do
First, who are those "Maccards" you are reffering to? Perhaps you meant to say "OS X user" or "persons who likes Apple stuff".
Second, a lot of us OS X user could not care less if you pirated OS X or not. Matter of fact, I know several people with genuine Macs that also run a Hackintosh (and I experimented with one a while ago).
>(to the point that parent post is bringing up poems about it like its a cute, non-weird thing).
The poem is placed by Apple developers, inside the OS X internels. IIRC, it's loaded in a .kext (a kernel extension). That's cute, especially it being a flippant poem and not some 20 page long legal text. In essense, it's a small easter egg.
It's not like random Apple users write poems about not pirating OS X, which seems to be your impression.
>At the same time pirating everything else on the planet seemingly is OK.
"Maccards think pirating OS X is very bad" (wrong) "At the same time pirating everything else on the planet seemingly is OK" (wrong again).
Even if "Maccards" (sic) thought that pirating OS X is bad, who told you it's the same persons that think pirating everything else is OK?
>I've never understood the rationale behind this.
The problem might be that what you believe goes on is not happening in the first place.
As an Android developer I had many discussions with Apple users/devs but I never heard anyone say something like that.
In my experience Mac users tend to be quite scrupulous about paying for their software.
Apart from their Adobe suites... (In my experience).
Note that I don't have any pirated software on my machine. Running Debian here.
With OS X there's no license key you need to enter, they have a poem instead asking you not to steal it. That's a nice thing, rather than assuming you're going to steal it they have a poem to jokingly ask you otherwise.
Sure, no license key, except for the key used to decrypt protected binaries only on authorized hardware.
There is a license "key", it's the whole computer.
I don't get why people are still whining about this in 2013. Is it really that unreasonable for an OS manufacturer to restrict the devices on which it can be installed? I write firmware for a specific known hardware platform; do I really want the pain of people using it on an Arduino? The appeal of OSX is that it just works, and works beautifully most of the time. Opening it up to all the devices dilutes the main thing it has going for it.
Sometimes there is freedom in restriction.
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What are protected binaries? This is something I've not heard of OSX having.
As far as I know, as long as all the hardware is stuff OSX has drivers for (and you generate a DSDT to describe that hardware) then you don't need any special "authorization." You just put in the OSX installer USB/DVD and it works.
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They also have it (somewhat) tied to the hardware, which reduces the threat of piracy in the first place.
I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. From your tone I suspect you're simply biased against Macs.
What is a Maccard? I've never heard anyone say that pirating OS X was more ok than any other kind of piracy.
I guess it's something like a Wintard/Lintard - only with more disposable income.
Who said anything about tards? I said Maccard and there is nothing derogative about it. Jeez.
I thought it was Mactard.
Then you read it again and see that nowhere in that post was the phrase "tard" anywhere to be seen.
Maccard = a word for a mac-user person thingie. There's nothing derogative about that.
If people read it as you did though, that might explain the downvotes.
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Maccard = Mac user.
And the attitude I've seen (especially in the OSX 86 community) is that general piracy is completely OK, but you have to buy OS X from Apple, otherwise you are doing something super-duper wrong. Then they move on to pirate Photoshop.
It's a mind-bending sort of ethics, and I was curious about what the reasoning behind it was.
I've never once come across this. I've come across Mac people that pirate stuff, and Mac people who don't and think that's wrong. That's fine, different people are entitled to their own opinions. But never once I have a come across anyone suggest that pirating other stuff is OK, but not Apple software.
That's not the mac using community as a whole then, is it. It's exactly the same a saying that all user of open source software are cheap because they don't want to pay for software. An entirely ridiculous statement that I'm sure you'll find abhorrent for many different reasons.
By OSX 86 community do you mean Hackintosh users?
If so, Hackintoshes are, from Apple's point of view, piracy anyway. Apple makes no money on the OS (which they sell for a few dollars) and all their money from the hardware the Hackintosh user is avoiding buying. So whatever ethics are involved are already in a dubious state.
If you mean general Mac users, then, as I and others have said, there isn't a prevalent attitude of condoning piracy (everyone I know who uses Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign has paid for it).
You know 1 person doesn't represent a community right?
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