Comment by sloppycee
11 years ago
Communism uses suppression as a means to control the population.
I've never considered the converse, using 'promotion' to control the population.
11 years ago
Communism uses suppression as a means to control the population.
I've never considered the converse, using 'promotion' to control the population.
It's done quite frequently in international geopolitics. Promote the group that is the most sympathetic to you, suppress the opposite.
Maybe if you're extra clever you promote two groups, one to be the clean "moderates" that you will ultimately back, and the other being the dirty "radicals" that you will use to brutally suppress your opponents. Wait til the job is done, then dispose of the radicals. I'm sure this has happened before.
Yes, there's even examples that are very recent or still ongoing: Ukraine (Right Sector/Svoboda/Azov being the extremists, Poroshenko the 'moderate'), and Syria - although that one backfired.
You're probably right, given the CIA fingerprints all over the current Ukrainian administration.
If you want a trip, check out how Arseniy Yatsenyuk rose to power. US "Department of State" is even listed as a benefactor to his political group.
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Dictatorships use suppression. Communism is a style of collective government. The USSR was never communist, the government merely used the lexicon of communism to suit its needs.
It's nearly impossible to accomplish communist goals without power centralization, i.e., dictatorship.
Communism is defined by a desire of common ownership of the means of production, absence of social classes, money, and the state. So it's kinda hard to conceive of this end goal through dictatorship, but you're welcome to try.
The USSR was a dictatorship. Whenever that became impossible to deny, leaders characterized themselves as caretakers. Now Russia pretends to be democratic. But it's still a dictatorship.
The USSR was never communist
By this definition, has there ever been a communist country?
It's a no-true-scotsman fallacy at heart.
Pretty common though: North Korea is a democratic state (according to its name), but not real democracy. National Socialism wasn't really socialist. The UK isn't a real monarchy.
It's a language game compelled by the guilt-by-association level of political sophistication of our culture. When the debate is rarely more sophisticated than 'that's socialist, like Hitler!!!!1!', it's no wonder that the response has to be 'that wasn't true socialism'.
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The term Communist Dictatorship is an oxymoron. Even though it's true that Lenin envisioned a dictatorship based on Marx's theories, this is not really anything like communism in the sense that Marx envisioned. The Jewish Kibbutz is a communist organization and notice how democratic it is.
The phrase communist country is a contradiction, communism means there are no countries.
The people drawing cave paintings in Chauvet 30,000 years ago were living in a communist society. 10,000 years ago the entire world was communist. Then slave societies arose in the Middle East and elsewhere.
Catalonia from 1936 to 1939. Maybe.
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Read about "la commune de Paris", though it is more anarchism than communism.