Comment by fraserharris
9 years ago
Twitter finances (TTM):
revenue: $2.52B gross profit: $1.49B
It's only losing money because of stock grants.
9 years ago
Twitter finances (TTM):
revenue: $2.52B gross profit: $1.49B
It's only losing money because of stock grants.
> It's only losing money because of stock grants.
That's like saying "We're only losing money because we have to pay our staff"
They do pay their staff. Unfortunately the stock compensation was based on the … highly optimistic … story they told around the IPO about growing to be as large as Google or Facebook. Why spend prudently when you're about to be stupid-rich?
I can't count the number of companies I've seen die or collapse because of this mentality.
Okay, but don't these stock grants substitute for salary? It's not like Twitter could just stop granting stock with no ill effects.
They pay pretty competitive salaries as well. The stock grants will eventually roll off as people's plans vest and are replaced with smaller ones(new employees have been getting smaller ones for a while already)
NYT story on the matter: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/27/business/dealbook/twitter...
TL;DR -- Twitter paid out about $680M in grants
Which is a lesson in how VC can easily destroy a viable, profitable business with a "money-chasing-money" strategy.
How do you figure that?
1) VCs own hardly any shared of Twitter[1]
2) Stock grants are used as compensation for people working at Twitter, NOT something that benefits investors (except in the sense people are working at the company the investors invested in I guess).
It's easy to blame VCs for everything, but I don't see how this makes any sense at all in this case.
[1] http://www.recode.net/2016/8/11/12417064/twitter-stock-owner...
Who is in line for a buyout before other investors and at what multiplier? That information is usually not public and can be more important than what percentage of ownership a particular investor has.
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Didn't USV invest in Twitter? Did they cash out after IPO?
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Twitter IPO'd over 3 years ago.