Comment by croon

9 years ago

> How about the possible historical situation where a business owners doesn't offer services to the irish, jews, gays, blacks, etc?

I'm sorry if someone was born a nazi then.

Then you wouldn't mind if they didn't offer services to vegans, christians, hackers, etc, right?

  • Not when they start organizing murder, no.

    I must have missed the memo on us hackers. What group of traits in people do we blame for our woes? Just so I know who we want to exterminate.

    I know this isn't a place for sarcasm, but when I can't tell if your comparison is sarcastic or not, I have a hard time not responding in kind.

    • What if I consider infant/child circumcision mutilation? Jews and Muslims do this for religious reasons. Would it be therefore okay for me to bar them from service?

      What if I'm an American Christian and think abortion is literally murder? Would it be therefore okay for me to ban customers who identify themselves as Pro-Choice?

      Or if I consider the Catholic church a criminal organisation for enabling systematic child abuse? Does that mean I can ban Catholics?

      If you say no, what about white supremacists who merely spread the idea that whites are superior but don't encourage violence against other races? If the KKK formally promised to never commit any violent acts again and leave POC alone but continue preaching racial superiority and claiming the US as a white nation?

      This is a pretty slippery slope you're arguing.

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    • > Not when they start organizing murder, no.

      I think you are misinformed (I assume you talk about natzis).

      Not all natzis are violent or are looking for violence. There are plenty of pre-war natzis that loved how Hitler pulled their country from dispair of economical and technological swamp, created economy of solid growth and created hundreds of thausands of jobs. Up to this point Hitler was an incredible leader and actually all those real successes as a politican made him being voted to become Germans fuerer.

      As with any other group or person views, a reasonable person never agrees with anyything they say or believe. Thats called fanatism. Look at Trump. Mamy things he do or say are reasonable and as a POTUS he sould be praised for. On the other hand you shouldnt agree with him when he talks crap.

      So its wrong to say all natzis are looking for violence, just like its wrong to say all Muslims are looking to blow thmeselves up in crouded spot.

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    • >I must have missed the memo on us hackers. What group of traits in people do we blame for our woes? Just so I know who we want to exterminate.

      You've probably missed the memo. Not all neo-Nazis, and certainly not all modern alt-right/new-right groups are against Jews or want to exterminate any particular group. In fact many are pro-Israel and are even OK with homosexuals and blacks, but favor a strong state, discipline, no immigration, traditional values, etc. So, that means you're ok with them then?

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