Comment by Aqueous
9 years ago
Yep - some lefty engaged in violence at some point and therefore the moral differences between these movements are completely erased. Sounds good to me - what about, what about.
Here are the concrete facts: The President failed to condemn open, white supremacists with designs on ethnic cleansing as the chief instigators of this violence. Nazis feel like they have an ally (Not wrongly) in the White House, and are emboldened. They have actually acted violently. Nazism is a violent ideology. These are the prevailing winds. I'm not going to go down the rabbit hole of false equivalency with you.
You're ignoring a prominent and consistent streak of politically motivated violence because in this case you dislike the other group more. You're diminishing the reality that Antifa is a worldwide movement/ideology with consistent violent tendencies.
The president did condemn open white supremacy, and did associate them with the violence, albeit not as strongly as it seems you would prefer, and not as the sole instigators (which they weren't).
Modern Antifa is also a (generally) violent group rooted in extreme socialist/communist politics, with the general overreaching idea of the violent overthrow of anybody they consider to be a "fascist." They have "actually acted violently," and have done so with much greater frequency and magnitude than any far-right group has in the last twelve months.
This isn't a false equivalency as much as it is an inconvenient one for leftist/progressive politics.
Where do you get that idea of the moral superiority of the modern left (is that not what you meant?) from? Isn't it quite strongly related with cultural Marxism, which is related to Marxism which (I hope) we can agree has been been the most genocidal ideology of human history, birthing Bolshevism, Stalinism and Maoism?
This is both a segue and something tightly related; do you think the genocide of white males is hypothetically possible, and do you have an opinion on the relation between the Armenian genocide and the modern-day "alt-right" notion of "diversity = white genocide" in relation to (re/dis)placement migration as promoted by the European Union, Sweden, Canada, Germany and France?
(I just noticed the combination of overwhelmingly (Islamic?) male illegal migrants and "diversity" as in the promotion of ethnic minorities and non-males, I think that might result in some interesting conflicts re: normal non-Western attitudes regarding women, but perhaps there is no conflict because of some dynamic I'm underestimating or overlooking?)