Comment by kuschku
9 years ago
Well, does it matter if I use Chrome, which sends everything I do back to Google Analytics, or if I use Firefox, which also sends my interaction with the Addon menu to Google https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15421708 ?
In a previous discussion, a Mozilla employee gave me as official statement that if I don’t trust Google, I shouldn’t use Firefox.
If I have to trust Google anyway, I can at least use the better browser.
Disclaimer: Until today, I’ve defended Mozilla in all such discussions, and kept the same PoV that you have presented here, but I just can’t do that anymore, when Mozilla is now just as evil as Google.
This misrepresents and overstates the Google Analytics and Cliqz situations
1. Mozilla obtained specific legal / contractual protections around any data that we store in GA, as covered in this adjacent thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15932224.
2. We did briefly run an experiment with Cliqz, but that integration was only ever offered to <1% of new, German-language installations of Firefox. I still need to read up on the technical details of that experiment, but it's misleading to claim that Firefox in general has any interaction with Cliqz.
3. As a Mozilla employee myself, I'd be very interested in a citation for that statement re: Google.
> 1. Mozilla obtained specific legal / contractual protections around any data that we store in GA, as covered in this adjacent thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15932224.
Which requires that users trust Google.
The reason I use Mozilla products is exclusively because I do not trust Google. If Mozilla requires that I trust Google to keep my data safe (which Mozilla transmitted to them), then I have no reason to use Mozilla products.
> 2. We did briefly run an experiment with Cliqz, but that integration was only ever offered to <1% of new, German-language installations of Firefox. I still need to read up on the technical details of that experiment, but it's misleading to claim that Firefox in general has any interaction with Cliqz.
Mozilla also invested into CliqZ, and a family member of mine was affected by the experiment – I live in Germany.