Comment by untog

8 years ago

That's part of the problem: we have no idea what Google is doing with our data, so we have no idea if they are respecting privacy - assuming there is even a definition for such a thing.

The only answer is to simply gather less data, or be more explicit about when you do. And Google isn't great at either.

In what ways is Google but explicit about what they collect?

  • One example that comes to mind is that Google Maps has started telling me when I've been somewhere before, like a restaurant. It's very useful information, but I do not recall an explicit prompt about Google collecting my location history in this way. Can advertisers target me based on this location history? I'm not sure. Does it affect how results are ordered on Maps? Probably. But I don't know.

    Relatedly, Maps shows me when a location is likely to be popular vs unpopular. I have to assume that's based on the location history of everyone using Maps - seeing how long they spend in a place and at what time. But what percentage of Maps users are aware their information is being used in this way? I doubt the number is high.

    Also, now I come to think of it, Google search itself. It shows different results sometimes when I'm logged in vs logged out, but it's not clear why. And I don't recall ever being asked if I wanted, say, my browsing history to influence future search results. It just does. Somehow.

    • >It's very useful information, but I do not recall an explicit prompt about Google collecting my location history in this way.

      You did.

      It sounds like you want something different than transparency about when information is collected, but instead you want transparency about what information is used to give you a specific feature.

      For example, you opted into location history a long time ago (likely), should Google again ask for your permission every time they add a new feature that takes advantage of your location history information? (assuming said features don't affect the privacy of your data)

      That seems like a very strange onus.

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    • > but I do not recall an explicit prompt about Google collecting my location history in this way.

      Weird, I'm pretty sure with my new Android phone, upon booting it up for the first time, I had to opt in to location services and a little popup explained exactly what it was doing.

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    • > Relatedly, Maps shows me when a location is likely to be popular vs unpopular. I have to assume that's based on the location history of everyone using Maps

      This is based on the location history of everyone using Android. Its the Google Location Services requests going back and forth all the time that tells them where people go.