I never use chrome except with gmail and other google services where I have an account. I think there's a market for this kind of systema.
I'm surprised anyone privacy minded still gets concerned about Google as they've been pretty open about everything since the launch of gmail. They give you free stuff in exchange for ads.
Chrome must send data, even if you aren't signed in. Google has a shadow profile for you anyway, so if you use chrome, you're logging to google.
> I'm surprised anyone privacy minded still gets concerned about Google as they've been pretty open about everything since the launch of gmail. They give you free stuff in exchange for ads.
They're open about the fact that they use your data but not as to how they use it. Even if they were, they have a high motivation to abuse it further and further since that is their business model.
Besides, I don't see how being open about invading your privacy makes it not invading your privacy.
Sub out Google/gmail with Facebook and see how that reads.
Unfortunately Vivaldi inherits some of Chrome's bullshit, like if you want to print something it will try use Google's awful cloud print thing tied to your account.
It even has the flag for this account-consistency feature. Who knows if it will be enabled - would you even notice if it was?
I use Vivaldi because the CEO is Jon von Tetzchner. Here's a quote from him from a recent interview:
Q: Other browser companies tell us that too many options and features confuse users, and they remove or limit functionality based on that claim. Is that true in your opinion?
I like the bookmarks, that I was able to customise it extensively, the sidebar is very useful and unobtrusive. I do like also that is based on chromium. All in all I feel like it has everything that other browsers have and just a bit more or a bit better.
You don't even need that, install Firefox and use their container for Facebook:
https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/facebook-container-extensio...
Even better: Install Firefox and use nothing for Facebook.
That's not an option for everyone
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I never use chrome except with gmail and other google services where I have an account. I think there's a market for this kind of systema.
I'm surprised anyone privacy minded still gets concerned about Google as they've been pretty open about everything since the launch of gmail. They give you free stuff in exchange for ads.
Chrome must send data, even if you aren't signed in. Google has a shadow profile for you anyway, so if you use chrome, you're logging to google.
> I'm surprised anyone privacy minded still gets concerned about Google as they've been pretty open about everything since the launch of gmail. They give you free stuff in exchange for ads.
They're open about the fact that they use your data but not as to how they use it. Even if they were, they have a high motivation to abuse it further and further since that is their business model.
Besides, I don't see how being open about invading your privacy makes it not invading your privacy.
Sub out Google/gmail with Facebook and see how that reads.
They didn't tell people that they were buying their banking data. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-30/google-an...
Well they didn't tell people that they're not either...
Can you provide a source for the shadow profile claim?
A while ago I switched to Vivaldi. I have never been happier with a browser.
Even though Vivaldi occasionally releases tarballs, the main browser is a proprietary product. See https://vivaldi.com/privacy/vivaldi-end-user-license-agreeme...
Tarballs?
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Unfortunately Vivaldi inherits some of Chrome's bullshit, like if you want to print something it will try use Google's awful cloud print thing tied to your account.
It even has the flag for this account-consistency feature. Who knows if it will be enabled - would you even notice if it was?
Last I checked, they still haven't had stabled cross-device tab sync.
Why do you like Vivaldi?
I'm using it but am fairly ambivalent.
I use Vivaldi because the CEO is Jon von Tetzchner. Here's a quote from him from a recent interview:
Q: Other browser companies tell us that too many options and features confuse users, and they remove or limit functionality based on that claim. Is that true in your opinion?
A: No. [...]
https://www.ghacks.net/2018/07/25/an-interview-with-vivaldis...
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I like the bookmarks, that I was able to customise it extensively, the sidebar is very useful and unobtrusive. I do like also that is based on chromium. All in all I feel like it has everything that other browsers have and just a bit more or a bit better.
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I liked that they took the old Opera 12- spatial-keyboard-navigation paradigm.