Comment by avip

7 years ago

Can anyone walk me through the reasoning behind all this IBM hatred? What's going on? I thought they just sell mainframes.

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SteveNuts  7 years ago

IBM is a sales-driven company that mainly focuses on closed-source proprietary software. Red Hat is an engineer-focused, innovation driven company that's completely built around the open-source Linux kernel.

The two worlds just seem incompatible to me, and I assume a lot of people share the same concern as I do.

whoisjuan  7 years ago

Try to use something made by IBM and then tell us if you like it.

  • rubin55  7 years ago

    1. DB2 is a damn good database imho. 2. And J9 was the fastest JVM when I benchmarked it about a year ago using jmh. 3. And I think Websphere Liberty is a damn fine app server also. 4. I really like Power based CPUs. 5. Talos is made possible because of the open approach that IBM had in creating the power platform. 6. I think loopback is pretty cool also.

    • nineteen999  7 years ago

      Agreed about DB2, although I don't believe the innovation there is as strong as at once was. We run it on Redhat so this might actually bode well for us. Until it comes time to renew our Redhat licenses at least...

  • classichasclass  7 years ago

    I'm of two minds to this. I have a personal POWER6 running AIX and it handles my main hosting and mail. It's a great box and I love the hardware, but the IBM salesdroids would never talk to me (I do all my business through a VAR), and the CUoD nonsense and having to use a whole separate HMC to manage the single LPAR is obnoxious.

    On the other hand, I absolutely love my Talos II. It's not an IBM machine, but it's engineered by them; the POWER9 is IBM, a lot of the OpenPOWER and PowerNV stuff is still as IBM designed it, and IBM contributes hardware support.

    So I understand this feeling when dealing with IBM as a vendor. They suck. But I think IBM hardware is solid and their R&D is top-notch, and I'd buy IBM again (just not from them).

    • avip  7 years ago

      TLAs I identify:

        - AIX
  - IBM
  - R&D

      To be interpreted:

        - POWER*
  - VAR
  - CUoD
  - HMC
  - LPAR
  - OpenPOWER

      Conclusion: I'm not a sysadmin.

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