Comment by solipsism
7 years ago
What? You asked, essentially, "why would they walking out if their CEO supports their cause?"
Although I thought the answer was a bit obvious, I answered... Words are cheap and the employees want to see action.
Your response is to talk about pointing fingers? I don't understand your point.
What do you have against Google employees making demands of their managers?
My mother always told me "When you point a finger at others, you have three fingers pointing back at you."
I'm pretty sure employees know that fingers are being pointed at them. Employees are constantly evaluated, and management places expectations on them (both work related and cultural) that those employees must meet, at penalty of termination.
It seems like you're questioning the idea that the fingers should point both ways... by saying that the fingers point both ways.
Yes, "words are cheap" is so obvious, it goes without saying. It doesn't add anything substantive to the discussion.
So saying that to me really doesn't cast any light whatsoever on this situation for me.
If someone at the top is sincerely interested in resolving this satisfactorily, why the walk-out? I don't get it.
That just sounds so naive. If I knew what your real disconnect with this was, I'd try to help you understand.
Let's walk through the basics:
* Employees have a problem with management.
* Management says "we'll work on it" like they always do.
* Employees may or may not believe, but they want to see action taking place. Employees feel secure enough at their privileged jobs to make a statement by "walking out", with the explicit threat of further action if demands aren't met.
* Management encourages the employees... And will have to decide if they mean business, in part based on the walk-outs.
That just sounds so naive.
I appear to be the top ranked woman on HN. I appear to be the only woman to have ever spent time on the leaderboard here (under a different handle). Historical surveys suggest the membership was possibly as much as 98% male at one time.
I get nothing but crapped on when I say that. I get nothing but mocked when I suggest that is indicative of personal competence on my part. People mostly admit to recognizing me at all in order to say something dickish. It's relatively rare that I get genuine support.
I got to the leaderboard by not grandstanding, not pissing on all the guys here, etc.
I'm not naive, though I may well be on my way out the door because I've been thrown off of plenty of other forums for saying "The emperor has no clothes." It's generally a socially unacceptable thing to do.
But it doesn't come out of naiveté by any stretch of the imagination whatsoever.
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