Comment by andybak

7 years ago

> 24 bits still makes an audible difference

The article (and numerous other sources I've seen over the years) disagrees with you so I'm curious why you're so certain?

As the article notes:

"It's true that 16 bit linear PCM audio does not quite cover the entire theoretical dynamic range of the human ear in ideal conditions."

Now, 24-bit may be overkill, but 24-bit is the next step up from 16-bit among standard encoding formats, and as the article notes, there are no drawbacks with 24-bit encoding except greater use of disk space.

  • The article says:

    "[...] does not quite cover the entire theoretical dynamic range of the human ear in ideal conditions."

    Note the words "theoretical" and "ideal".

    In your post it sounds like you're claiming that you can regularly hear a difference under normal listening conditions - which contradicts my reading of that sentence.

    My gut feeling is that the difference you're hearing is placebo.

    To put it another way - either the article is making an inaccurate statement, you're mistaken - or you've got golden ears and only ever listen to music in specially prepared environments.

    • The article is making numerous inaccurate statements, because it's got an agenda and the author is invested in lossy media encoding quite heavily. There's a degree to where it's relative: in the car with the windows open you'll not be hearing 16 bits of audio resolution.

      Monty's gotta monty, and this argument has been going on from the very earliest days of digital: back when people behaved exactly the same way over digital recordings that are now commonly accepted to be excruciatingly bad for a variety of reasons (generally having to do with bad process and wrong technical choices).

      You can get a HELL of a lot out of 16/44.1 these days if you really work at it. I do that for a living and continue to push the boundaries of what's common practice (most recently, me and Alexey Lukin of iZotope hammered out a method of dithering the mantissa of 32 bit floating point (which equates to around 24 bit fixed for only the outside 1/2 of the sample range, and gets progressively higher precision as loudness diminishes). Monty is not useful in these discussions, nor is anyone who just dismisses the whole concept of digital audio quality.

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