Comment by macintux

7 years ago

Interestingly, that's no longer correct.

Historically, yes 465 has been deprecated several years ago. But as many ISP and the largest email services kept using it, the IANA had to change its tune and 'resurrected' port 465 in this RFC.

It is funny: the RFC itself describes that as a wart, but reality is a harsh mistress.

Section 3-3 of RFC 8314 from 2018 has the details.

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johnchristopher  7 years ago

Well, "Interestingly" (what?) and "It is funny but" sound patronizing to my ears. I'd use that language if I wanted to rub someone's nose into it and subtly hint they are stupid to other participants, especially at that point of the conversation.

  • Aeolun  7 years ago

    Doesn’t that mean that you set out to interpret messages in that way?

    I guess this is the reverse of nonviolent communication. If you always speak and are used to communicating agressively, then people that are being nice suddenly sound condescending.

    • johnchristopher  7 years ago

      > Doesn’t that mean that you set out to interpret messages in that way?

      Yes, it does. But then it's still up to me to try to overcome my first reaction. I don't always succeed.

      > I guess this is the reverse of nonviolent communication. If you always speak and are used to communicating agressively, then people that are being nice suddenly sound condescending.

      "Always" ? Interesting choice of word when talking about non violent communication :).

      Snark aside, I don't see myself as communicating aggressively. I may be wrong. I certainly don't put myself in the camp of "people who tell it like it is" though.

      Also, faking being nice can really be annoying.

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