Comment by Drunk_Engineer
7 years ago
Don't be ridiculous. The US has no pedestrian safety standards whatsoever. In a sane world, the NHTSA would have outlawed bull bars and required trucks to have sideguards.
7 years ago
Don't be ridiculous. The US has no pedestrian safety standards whatsoever. In a sane world, the NHTSA would have outlawed bull bars and required trucks to have sideguards.
I had to look this up because i figured you must be talking out of your ass, there had to be some pedestrian safety standards.
but nope, apparently not. https://usa.streetsblog.org/2017/12/07/while-other-countries...
The US is one of the most anti-pedestrian countries I've been to. Everywhere else I've been to, drivers are supposed to watch out for pedestrians crossing the road. In the US, they've managed to make it illegal!
In CO drivers must yield to pedestrians in cross walks. Now many drivers don't know this so resort cities put up flashing lights and warning sides for drivers. Personally, I've gotten use to the angry, honking drivers when I'm in the crosswalk but no one in their right mind is going to risk actually hitting a pedestrian.
The laws on the books are more so that if a pedestrian steps off a curb or crosses suddenly somewhere other than a crosswalk, drivers aren't immediately crucified by the law. For example, if the speed limit is 45mph with an adjacent sidewalk, how are drivers suppose to stop for any given pedestrian that jaywalks without looking? Additionally, if a vehicle has to maneuver out the way to avoiding hitting someone, they become a danger to other vehicles and even other pedestrians.
Except in areas where jaywalking is a huge hazard (i.e near homeless shelters in urban areas), it's not like people are actually getting ticketed for jaywalking.
https://www.mwl-law.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/PEDESTRIA...
Vehicles must yield to pedestrians in cross-walks in just about or all states it seems. I didn't read every single one in that PDF but i skimmed it.
In some states:
"Vehicles must yield to pedestrian in crosswalk on vehicle’s half of road or close to it. Pedestrians must not step off curb and into path of vehicle when vehicle does not have time to stop"
Where exactly have you been? It's definitely illegal to cross the street outside designated pedestrian crossings (where available) where I live - and you will get fined if you're impeding traffic by doing so and are seen by the police.
Now, I don't know all the national laws here in Europe, but this page would support the idea that other countries might have very similar laws: https://ec.europa.eu/transport/road_safety/specialist/knowle...
>(c) In order to cross the carriageway elsewhere than at a pedestrian crossing signposted as such or indicated by markings on the carriageway, pedestrians shall not step on to the carriageway without first making sure that they can do so without impeding vehicular traffic.
>(d) Once they have started to cross a carriageway, pedestrians shall not take an unnecessarily long route, and shall not linger or stop on the carriageway unnecessarily.
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Not true. Pedestrians always have the right of way, whether they’re ‘jaywalking’ or not.
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Spend some time in Brazil and you’ll realize just how pedestrian unfriendly a place can be.
I wish we could hold these regulators personally accountable for every pedestrian death that could have been prevented by safer regulations.
That's what the ballot box is for. You can.
The regulator of the regulator is your legislator.
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What? I thought the pedestrian safety standard was they have right of way.
Well, that's just state driving law. They're talking about design standards. That said, this thing fails in one way for sure... they can't have their brake lights on the tailgate like that. That does not meet the standards. So, there will definitely have to be some design changes before this becomes final.
So, is this basically illegal in other countries? Does that mean we should expect the Cybertruck to be US-only?