Comment by DangerousPie

6 years ago

If you haven't used Firefox in a while you should really give it another chance. It has vastly improved in terms of CPU and battery usage. It also has a lot of great privacy-enhancing features like tracking protection enabled by default and extensions like Facebook Container make it trivial to prevent tracking even further.

As someone who had repeatedly tried to make the jump to Firefox, it _finally_ stuck after quite a few attempts. (CPU and laptop heat issues were problems for a while, now they aren't!)

I second this; keep trying even if it isn't for you after a few times, it was worth it to keep trying, officially Firefoxer :)

I love FF and have gone back you it for the last few months, after using chrome for years, CPU and battery usage is great now, but coincidentally I've been getting these weird hangups on my laptop. So yesterday I opened up my activity monitor with 6-7 tabs (including 1 youtube tab in a separate window) open I found FF using ~12gb of memory on my MBP. Then to get a comparison, I opened the exact same tabs in a chrome browser (separate window for youtube and all) and found it using under 1gb of memory. This may be is an exceptional case, but for now I just don't have the memory to run FF with docker and dev environments up too.

I used FF for a couple of months. Its heart is noble but it's just not as polished as other options.

Edit:

I didn't want to expand because I've already banged that drum too many times on HN.

See these other comments of mine:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22059567

  • Thank you! Someone said that finally. I really tried hard to like Firefox. But it just really doesn't replace Chrome for me. Maybe it's the ecosystem, extensions, user experience, I'm not sure but the browsing experience is never really the same on FF.

The one thing that keeps bugging me is the widgets in Firefox (Ubuntu 18.04) look super-dated -- reminds me of NCSA Mosaic and makes me want to close it. Can they please update their widget library?

https://imgur.com/a/JYWKhpu

Or just use Ungoogled Chromium, and get the performance advantage of Chrome without the tracking.

As a firefox user, they are spending more money on PR and less on quality. Their UI has gotten progressively worse. And I'm not taking about xul deprecation. Please Mozilla come back to your strengths. SIMPLE: Provide a great alternative.

The days of Firefox are over. Every site I work on has less than a few percent of Firefox users. We don't even test with Firefox, because fuck 'em - I never liked the way Mozilla did anything anyway and their painfully obviously false, preachy holier-than-thou brainwashing campaign that they're constantly running in order to keep getting daddy Google's money has always been annoying.

I'd rather use MS Edge. It's actually even faster and lighter than Chrome. So, I've already started using it on my Windows and Mac machines and I'm just waiting for it to be released on Linux so I can use it on my main workstations.

I bet Edge exceeds Firefox market share any day now. Maybe Google should start giving Microsoft money too! But even if Edge market share doesn't grow I'll be quite comfortable since it's the WebKit/Chrome/Blink lineage and compatibility that I care about.

Fuck that piece of shit Gecko. I'm tired of hearing about it from the extremely tiny but loud minority of Mozillatroids. Now do your duty and fade my comment in your petty attempt at censoring my words. You can't change the truth.

  • I think Mozilla is a horrible leadership spending money on all the wrong things and I'd rather lose my job than donate to them. But, in all fairness, they're still way better than both Microsoft and Google. At least Mozilla isn't actively trying to make my life worse every single day.

  • Wow, you seem very upset. I suggest going for a walk. Take a couple deep breaths. Calm down. It's just a browser.

    By the way, what sites do you work on? I'd like to make sure to avoid them.

    • Please don't respond to a bad comment with another one. That just makes the thread worse. Doubly so for personal attacks, which are a bannable offence on HN.

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    • I enjoy ranting against Mozvillains though :) They're not a browser, they're just very annoying preachy people who need to be refuted and since I have no problem doing it, I feel that I am doing God's work.

  • > We don't even test with Firefox, because fuck 'em

    You are the types of people who are slowly destroying the internet, nice work.

    • Incorrect. Mozilla is responsible for their shitty market share, not me.

      I don't test with the Opera, QQ, Yandex or Sogou Explorer browsers either - just to name a few other tiny niche browsers... Do you??

Given the purpose of the x-client-data header, I'll be shocked if Mozilla doesn't have a similar header for feature-enable-identification to do its own tracking of bugs at scale.

... and if it doesn't, they're developing their browser with one hand tied behind their back on quality assurance relative to alternatives.