Comment by danso

5 years ago

Link to @realDonaldTrump tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/12662311007807447...

tweet text:

> ....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!

Disclaimer text:

> This Tweet violated the Twitter Rules about glorifying violence. However, Twitter has determined that it may be in the public’s interest for the Tweet to remain accessible. Learn more

"Learn more" links to this page about "public-interest exceptions"

https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/public-intere...

edit: here's the official thread from @TwitterComms about it: https://twitter.com/TwitterComms/status/1266267446979129345

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danso

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_fq4v  5 years ago

Completely agree with trump here honestly. Looting private business is not a form of protest against the police or the state for that matter.

  • xigency  5 years ago

    You should investigate the racial history of the phrase “when the looting starts, the shooting starts” and also consider whether property crime deserves loss of life.

    • tathougies  5 years ago

      > property crime deserves loss of life.

      This is not an isolated incidence of property crime. This is utter destruction more akin to waging a total war against a particular district of Minneapolis. It's a form of terrorism.

      Property -- in the form of business and services -- is essential to life. There is no absolute distinction between the two, despite what some pretend. These people are breaking property in their own community and then expect investors or the very government they're protesting to step back in and rebuild.

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  • yedava  5 years ago

    Really? People who steal should be shot?

    • Veen  5 years ago

      No, but nor should they be allowed to get away with it. They should be stopped and charged with a crime. But in the process of being stopped and arrested, their chances of being shot are not negligible, especially if they resist.

    • tathougies  5 years ago

      If you steal a TV, yeah honestly. There's a difference between stealing food or money to feed yourself or provide for your family and stealing luxury goods. I have lots of sympathy for the former, very little for the latter. The latter is a form of terrorism meant to intimidate businesses many of whose owners are likely members of your own community.

      I don't understand the modern desire to excuse theft. Theft is a form of terrorism; it is not okay, and is really high up there on the list of serious crimes that damage society.

noobermin  5 years ago

Why is this reply being downvoted? It is merely informative.

  • all2  5 years ago

    It shows the actual words, which are hard to spin. If we keep what was done vague, we can spin it any way we please.

    • koheripbal  5 years ago

      That's interesting. I interpreted it the exact opposite way. That looking at the words - they don't seem so bad, so the liberal-minded HN users downvoted to keep the details away.

      Funny how personal bias can twist perceptions.

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  • doublesCs  5 years ago

    > Why is this reply being downvoted? It is merely informative.

    Because this is HN. Expect some guidelines-lawyer to cite some section that was technically breached by that informative reply.

  • dntbnmpls  5 years ago

    > It is merely informative.

    That's the problem.

    When facts/information doesn't align with one's agenda, some people have a terrible habit of trying to have it hidden/banned/removed/etc.

    You would think in hackernews of all places, we'd upvote the comment to see exactly what trump wrote so that we can decide for ourselves when it was "glorifying violence". Sadly, many here don't want that to happen.

  • bilbo0s  5 years ago

    I think because it just restates what's in the link being discussed, when the link is not inaccessible nor behind a paywall. There are a lot of people who think that's bad form on HN. That's my guess. People trying to force everyone to "read the articles" on HN.