{"id":23353416,"user":"efraim","time":1590775568,"time_ago":"5 years ago","type":"comment","content":"

That still doesn't make looting self-defense.","comments":[{"id":23357353,"user":"baby","time":1590799233,"time_ago":"5 years ago","type":"comment","content":"

If you see the community, or the people, as a single organism. Then yes it is reacting in harmful way to an attack. And it is hard to control where the harm is directed.","comments":[{"id":23359657,"user":"philwelch","time":1590829250,"time_ago":"5 years ago","type":"comment","content":"

You’re talking about human beings who are responsible for their own actions.","comments":[{"id":23362247,"user":"baby","time":1590855891,"time_ago":"5 years ago","type":"comment","content":"

And yet people generalize the action of a few to the whole protest.","comments":[{"id":23365370,"user":"philwelch","time":1590877694,"time_ago":"5 years ago","type":"comment","content":"

Yes, especially when they say things like, "If you see the community, or the people, as a single organism..."","comments":[{"id":23367679,"user":"baby","time":1590906590,"time_ago":"5 years ago","type":"comment","content":"

it's like you're actively trying not to understand my comment?","comments":[{"id":23367913,"user":"philwelch","time":1590910361,"time_ago":"5 years ago","type":"comment","content":"

Not at all. If looting and vandalism is “the action of a few”, then it doesn’t make sense to characterize it as “self-defense” on behalf of some collective “organism”. It’s like you switched sides and started arguing my point in the middle of the argument.","comments":[{"id":23371397,"user":"baby","time":1590948967,"time_ago":"5 years ago","type":"comment","content":"

> If looting and vandalism is “the action of a few”, then it doesn’t make sense to characterize it as “self-defense” on behalf of some collective “organism”.

Then we'll have to agree to disagree, opportunists don't exist without a crowd.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":6,"url":"item?id=23371397"}],"comments_count":1,"level":5,"url":"item?id=23367913"},{"id":23368432,"user":"efraim","time":1590919070,"time_ago":"5 years ago","type":"comment","content":"

What is the point of your comments? You mention the community as an organism that can't control where the harm is directed, that is acting in self-defense. But the people looting, breaking windows and throwing stones are individuals that chose to participate in violent riots. They are not acting in self-defense.","comments":[{"id":23371403,"user":"baby","time":1590949008,"time_ago":"5 years ago","type":"comment","content":"

The point of my comment is that you will always have bad apples, doesn't make the whole field rotten.","comments":[],"comments_count":0,"level":6,"url":"item?id=23371403"}],"comments_count":1,"level":5,"url":"item?id=23368432"}],"comments_count":4,"level":4,"url":"item?id=23367679"}],"comments_count":5,"level":3,"url":"item?id=23365370"}],"comments_count":6,"level":2,"url":"item?id=23362247"}],"comments_count":7,"level":1,"url":"item?id=23359657"}],"comments_count":8,"level":0,"url":"item?id=23357353"}],"comments_count":9,"url":"item?id=23353416"}

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