Comment by abeppu

6 years ago

The ending of this makes it sound super clean. 3 ms * speed of light => ~560 miles. "It all makes sense!"

But ... isn't the speed of light through fiber actually like 2/3 of the speed of light in a vacuum? And that fiber isn't going to be laid out in a straight line exactly to the destination. So I think really there must have been a fair bit of uncertainty around that ~3ms to abort a connection.

The FAQ addresses this:

https://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail-faq.html

Was gonna say. Speed of light through cables or fiber optics is roughly 2/3 the speed of light through vacuum. Also I don't see how it would know it has established a connection until the round-trip has happened. All in all, it probably waited more like 10 ms, if this story were true, which it probably isn't.

I am surprised that signals travel faster in copper (3c/4) than in fiber (2c/3), anyone has an explanation?

  • The number for copper is not a fixed quantity, it varies with the type of cable. Electric fields are outside of the copper wire, not inside. The copper conductor acts as a wave guide for the electromagnetic wave. So it turns out that things around the cable have an effect on the speed of propagation [1], particularly the insulator. Bare copper wire in a vacuum would be very close to c. In the case of fibre, the issue is index of refraction.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity_factor

And the time it takes to get to that fiber. It’s a fictive piece probably?