Comment by grugagag

5 years ago

I'm productive in bursts as well. I have the feeling that in between bursts things are still computing in the background so it looks like you're not doing anything but the brain is still churning. This type of bursty productivity is very hard to account for in a corporate environment where one's productivity should be accounted for on a daily basis and laid down in cookie cutter time slots. I often wonder whether I have ADHD since I can hyperfocus when Im in a productive burst. Unfortunately/fortunately I don't tick other boxes so I'm in a limbo with the diagnosis

> I have the feeling that in between bursts things are still computing in the background so it looks like you're not doing anything but the brain is still churning.

This is something that's bothered me since my university put out a survey asking about time spent on homework.

Suppose the following things happen:

1. A math class assigns a proof.

2. I look at the problem, fiddle around with it for 20 minutes, and get nowhere.

3. I play Final Fantasy for 6 days.

4. I go back to the problem. In 40 minutes, I have the proof worked out.

How long did I spend on the proof? What if the counterfactual was

1. Proof gets assigned.

2. Look at it, do nothing.

3. The day after, sit down and spend 3 hours proving it.

How long did I spend then? Are the two scenarios... different?

  • I think about this in terms of how much clock time has elapsed versus how much working time I spend on something - i.e. I am very often able to trade an increase in clock time elapsed (taking more breaks) for a decrease in working time, and vice versa.

    As with most things, this comes with diminishing returns as you push toward minimizing one over the other.

    Sometimes, even negative returns, e.g. because of increased context switching costs, or confusion and general malaise caused by staring at something for too long.

    • > I am very often able to trade an increase in clock time elapsed (taking more breaks) for a decrease in working time, and vice versa.

      But this is the problem with a survey of "how long does the homework take?". The question isn't well defined. The answer doesn't exist.

I think it's quite common among programmers. At least, I have always been that way too. I can go week of unproductive time then suddenly several days of immersion.

  • That's the reason I avoid taking the Ritaline/Amphetamines route. I think it is normal and i wouldn't want to be a productivity machine anyway

ADHD is defined based on symptoms in childhood. A lot of adults discover they have ADHD when they take their kids in for testing/assessment due to school issues and the kids are diagnosed.

The drugs stimulate your executive function which helps you concentrate.

If you goal is to get prescribed stimulants (amphetamines, ritalin, or modafinil), it's pretty trivial to get diagnosed and prescribed. Psychs hand that stuff out like candy

  • I went to my general practitioner (in the US) and got a Ritalin prescription just by saying “I have a hard time concentrating at work”. That’s it. No referral to a specialist or anything.

    It is a wonder drug for me. I used to spend a majority of my time farting around on the internet at work, then working long hours and scrambling to get my work done before the deadline. Now I am able to be productive more consistently and don’t miss nearly as many deadlines.

    • Are you a “different” person while on Ritalin? My wife’s a teacher and these days a lot of kids are on Ritalin. She says the kids that “need” it are more manageable when taking it, but it does change their personality. They are less... “lively”.

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  • I tried some and I don't like their effect. Yes, I can sit down through boring stuff but the intrinsic interest becomes dries up while on these. It is true that I didn't try this treatment for extended periods of time but I may if I absolutely need to (but only temporarily, up to a couple of months or so). For now I try to enjoy my average productivity which comes in bursts and that is okay

  • I don't know how it is in the US, but I'm scared of even trying to be diagnosed in the UK. Once you're in the system as somebody with psych problems, a lot of things can get harder. I fear the risk is not worth satiating the curiosity.

    • I guess that’s one benefit of the US’s terrible health system? There isn’t a single “system” so even if one doctor diagnoses you with something, a different doctor in a different office won’t have any idea about it unless you volunteer the information.

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