Comment by barumi
4 years ago
> The amount of weird issues is about constant.
But linux is free both as in free beer and in free speech, windows required you to pay the Microsoft tax to use, and lastly macOS required you to pay a premium on hardware.
That freedom of Linux comes at a cost that people aren't paid to take care of the level of details other OS have.
Paying $100 for Windows seems like a better solution if you just want a working OS without a hassle.
And what premium do Mac hardwares have? It seems I paid what they deserved as I can't find anything better in the market. Even moreso now that M1 is out, it seems all Windows machines have premium.
> That freedom of Linux comes at a cost that people aren't paid to take care of the level of details other OS have.
What do you mean "take care of the level of detail"?
I can download Debian right now, install it on hardware in about 10min, and get everything to work rock solid without any hitch.
I can't say the same about either Windows 10 or macOS.
In fact, I had mojave crash and reboot more times in the last month than Ubuntu 18.04 since it was released, and mojave is preinstalled in its own target hardware, which is supposed to be high-end, while Ubuntu is installed on a cheap laptop that cost between a third and a fourth of my apple laptop.
What exactly do you mean by level of detail?
Maybe the desktop environment itself is fine but for third party apps I don't see $10 range nifty apps that boost productivity on Linux.
Half of the apps I use are on Linux as well but that won't get me to the productivity on macOS.
macOS I understand, but what machine do you have that Debian will work but Windows won’t?
>> That freedom of Linux comes at a cost that people aren't paid to take care of the level of details other OS have.
>> Paying $100 for Windows seems like a better solution if you just want a working OS without a hassle.
I've been running Fedora for 15 years and haven't had any of those pesky Linux issues for at least 8 of those years. Meanwhile, I was issued a new Windows laptop at work just last week and it Sucks pretty bad. It's smooth and polished, but with all the advertising and "first ones free" preinstalled shit it feels a lot like Facebook rather than a computer. I'm glad its me-at-work being monetized and not me at home...
> working OS without a hassle
I can't help but think you meant, "I've accepted there's no real way to salvage and diagnose my computer when it breaks so reformatting it has become second nature. I always keep an up to date Win10 install USB ready, and I even have a second hard drive that I keep all my files on."
With Macs, you have to put up with MacOS and Apple (one big premium is lack of choice). It's also not that easy to self-administrate without MDM, and software options are relatively limited if you come from either Linux or Windows.
Oh come on stop spreading the Windows 98 old stories. Windows 10 is a piece of crap spyware but it is stable.
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Never reinstalled Windows unintentionally at least for the part 10 years.
> software options are relatively limited
When was the last time you used macOS? I see the options limited on Windows rather and even moreso on Linux.
If Windows is working for you "without a hassle", you must be using some version that us mortals can only dream of.
What hassle do you have these days?
Yeah, I don't use peripherals as it's only a gaming machine (I don't see other reason to use Windows) but it's working as intended for years.
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True. Linux is the best value and the best developer experience IMHO - unless you need commercial software that is Win/Mac only. Even then you can virtualize which is safer too. I can also easily get a Darcula theme OS-wide for Gnome so..
> macOS required you to pay a premium on hardware
Or just run macOS in a virtual machine
It comes with the cost of a comp science student debt and manhours to poured into.
It wouldn't be necessary if people standardized & automated the sharing of workflows and finding of problem solutions.