Comment by Fnoord

5 years ago

'Media' isn't the same as 'investigative journalism' (where a lot of fact-checking occurs).

Investigative journalism, I hope so. But general journalism...

I'm afraid I've traveled enough to say petty wars are often reported night-day level of wrong (at least for all the ones I have experienced)

It seems we want to believe we are good, and 'they' are bad, but frankly we don't care either way, so long as we make money

  • > Investigative journalism, I hope so.

    I work for one (not involved in the actual stories) and I can guarantee that the process I've seen is pretty meticulous.

    > But general journalism...

    There's a separation that needs to be done here as well between news and columns / opinion pieces. News are supposed to answer what's known as Five Ws (Who, What, When, Where, Why), while columns/opinion pieces are rarely expected to be held to same standards, are often inaccurate, and subjective by their nature (they are opinion pieces after all). Unfortunately they're almost always published under the same brand, but usually when I see people complaining about journalism, they don't make that distinction.

    That isn't to say news in itself is not biased, because even picking what's newsworthy is a process that relies on bias.

    • Thanks. I'm sure you're doing clear work, and being precisely truthful about clear topics

      My problem is news like: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55484436

      BBC saying 'restore the presidents rule' and 'unity cabinet', but this is the same president whose people said was a dictator and overthrew in the Arab spring

      Not following the situation closely, but those five Ws by the BBC look so very strongly in the pocket of arms money and having very little to do with democracy

      To the point I would say they are covered in blood, and calling it 'bringing peace.' I wish this was a lone example

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