Comment by Guthur
5 years ago
Then move off. It's not the only solution.
There are alternatives to all these: Search, Email, Game streaming, Online doc editing, Etc
5 years ago
Then move off. It's not the only solution.
There are alternatives to all these: Search, Email, Game streaming, Online doc editing, Etc
> Then move off.
Great, let's legislate that you can switch providers but you have to be able to keep your email address, like we did with phones.
You already can, if you use an email provider like gmail with your own domain name.
No. Terms and conditions do not apply. Anyone can, at any time, for any reason. Email domains are a historic accident; let's semantically decouple them from the domain system. The tech companies can figure out how to implement that.
The nice thing about a law is we can figure out how to do it after, not before. :)
It wouldn't be difficult! There are 7.6 billion people on the planet, an average email address is probably 25 characters. If every email address is forwarded, that's ~380GB of forwarding data (from address + to address) - and keep in mind that's the stupidest implementation and the worst case possible. I'd like to think that someone who offers a public email service can reserve 380GB of SSD for a forwarding table without going out of business.
Practically, I'd expect vendors to quickly agree on a "301 permanently moved" scheme. So if a Yahoo user is sending an email to a GMail user who moved to a private mail server, Yahoo wouldn't even bother pinging GMail (after the first time) because they'd know that address was moved.
Which literally puts you on all autoreject spam lists because SPF and DNSSEC. Unless you pay for GSuite and/or your mail provider allows this custom domain functionality.
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> Then move off.
It works for you (as in, single person). Not for your friends and family who will ask you one day what to do about the account they lost.
We (technical people) know this happens and have seen it happen - it is on us to push for better solution than convincing one person at a time. Unless one prefers nihilism and watching the world burn of course.
The world is not burning. Do you know what was before play store, YouTube, twitch, whatever... nothing.
It's not like they came and stomped over your beautiful garden.
This is not about accounts on media consumption services - those can be easily replaced. From the tweets, this is the problem:
> My phone has lost access to thousands of dollars of apps on @GooglePlay. [...] My @googledrive data is completely gone. I can't access my @YouTube channel. The worst of all is losing access to my @gmail address of over 15 years.
This can be literally the end for a small company which started relying too much on that environment.
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> The world is not burning. Do you know what was before play store, YouTube, twitch, whatever... nothing.
You know what was before electricity? Nothing. But switch that off today, and the whole world will burn.
Between Google Drive, Photos, GMail, and Google account being used as authentication, losing a Google account is a life-crippling situation for many people.
> It's not like they came and stomped over your beautiful garden.
That's the thing, though. They did. They put a highway next to it, and now nobody is gardening, the garden shop closed down, everyone's commuting to the city, and no one wants to buy my produce because my garden is too close to the road...
...or, to unpack it: the big platforms, by their very existence, killed off people's "beautiful gardens". Facebook and Reddit are why discussion boards are mostly dead. Google is why it's infeasible for most to host their own e-mail server these days (the heuristic of distrusting senders other than the big e-mail providers only works because there are big e-mail providers).
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I'd argue there's no real alternative to YouTube. There's got to be orders of magnitude more content there than all of its competitors combined.
I'll give you YouTube :)
YouTube feels like it's about to hit some wall though, content matching copyright take downs seem to be getting out of control.
I've always used private playlists to organize things. They look like swiss cheese with all the deleted videos.
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Don't like it? Build your own.... Everything.