Comment by aardvarkr
4 years ago
Uhmmm I’m pretty sure David vs Goliath is talking about scale between competition. Saying that $11B is Goliath just because you’re sitting at $1M doesn’t mean they’re not in a crazy mismatched fight against a $2T company. In the same way you could be in a David vs Goliath situation yourself if you with $1M in wealth tried to sue someone with $25K of wealth. Everything is relative. Doesn’t mean it’s not a crazy unfair mismatch that doesn’t deserve sympathy and regret.
It may be relative but it isn't proportionate. A 11B market cap company can field a similarly competent legal department as a 2T market cap company can. I, with 25k, absolutely could not afford the same lawyer someone with 1M.
Have you considered that guy with $1M won't be willing to drop like $50k (2x your net worth) on a lawyer just to squash you?
He must have possibility to earn $100k in process to do that. Well unless you really pissed him off.
If you earn $25k a year and he spends $50k in one year to take your cake. Well unless he really is your competitor that can make use of your defeat he still needs 2 years to get even. Then it probably is not easy money because there is always a risk he will not win. Maybe he can find better ways to earn more money than squashing some $25k guys.
Quite. I run a company with roughly £1.25M turnover per annum, so seem to fit the $1M guy example.
There is no way on earth that I would look at my "value" and compare it with a £50K "value" to decide on my legal "battle-worthiness." It is quite likely that we both have similar (to the same power of 10) insurance for whatever it is we are duking it out over. Anyway this is all a bit circumspect.
Against a company with billions to play with? I'll just keep my head down and crack on and hope not to be noticed 8)
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When there are two large entities (and I take this to mean way larger than you or your company) then you’re better off rooting for the one that at least releases code you can use.
If OpenSearch is truely open then in theory you can find another provider. But for ElasticSearch you’re stuck with them.
> But for ElasticSearch you’re stuck with them.
I am a bit at a loss about that statement, you can run Elasticsearch on your on infrastructure
Quoting the comment you're replying to:
> If OpenSearch is truely open then in theory you can find another provider
Those are the key words. With an open source solution someone else can offer a turn-key solution that benefits from economies of scale.
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That is not entirely true, of course. Not if you don’t want to pay. As proof - just look at Amazon, they can’t (that’s why they forked it).
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I don't root for David because he's smaller. I root for him because he's small.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!
Put another way, the $11B Goliath is .55% of Super Goliaths size.
To be realistic and fair I don't believe part of Amazon that is doing fork of Elasticsearch is $2T, they have other stuff to do.
Just like the guy that is $1M worth is not going to blow all of his money just to squash some guy. He probably has more powerful friends and maybe some connections but I don't see dumping $0.5m on lawyers just because he can take piece of cake from the other guy that will make him $10k a year.
Imagine head of the department storming into Jeff Bezos office telling that he needs 20% of all Amazon worth to squash Elastic, that would be funny. Quick calc with 20% I assume would be $20B which would be only x2 of Elastic, so I don't see something like that happening.
just a math correction: 20% of $2T is $400b - or about 40x of Elastic