Comment by pasquinelli

5 years ago

> The ideal goal for everyone is getting paid (in increasing amounts) on a regular basis, regardless of “-ism”.

no, that parenthesis, (in increasing amounts), is a feature of capitalism, not inherent to all human motivation. the need for ever increasing income stems from the need to provide capital investors with a return.

I would wager the ideal goal of the vast majority of people would be increasing income due to wanting to consume more and more, for various reasons, but at its most basic, for the reason of attracting mates.

  • This is a complete straw man with no scientific basis at all. Desire for constantly increasing consumption could just easily be an artifact of culture. There's no reason to believe it's biological

    • The biological part is seeking out a desirable mate (per my amateur understanding of biology - it could be completely wrong). Desirable for many animals includes ability to procure resources (and defend them). Being able to consume displays this (and not necessarily plastic things). Consuming leisure time and activities are a signal that you have the power to do more of what you want to do or obtain it.

      But I do not claim this is a scientific conclusion, I simply landed on this model as it seemed to match up with my reality.

  • Sorry, that's bullshit. Most sexual behaviors are culturally conditioned and empirically money doesnt make men or women linearly and indefinitely more attracted.

    What is attractive is social status - in capitalism this is linked mostly to wealth but that's not a given at all. Another thing that's attractive is stability, but that doesn't have anything to do with consumption, in today's world it means having stable access to housing, ideally owning it, mainly.

    • >means having stable access to housing, ideally owning it, mainly

      Having access to shelter in a desirable place is currently one of the best signals about one's ability to procure resources and I would categorize it as consumption. You can have stable access to housing where few people want to live, but it will not help you in attracting from a larger pool of mates (if that is your goal).

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