Comment by lmilcin

5 years ago

  Do you take a possibility
  you can be both right and
  wrong? The feat might not
  be as difficult as author
  seems it is. I personally
  can think of many ways to
  achieve it. Come to think
  of it, it may actually be
  even easier because lines
  in that guide afford more
  ways to be broken because
  they are longer. And I am
  not even native speaker.

  To match lengths you only
  need to make one or maybe
  two choices per line only
  to adjust a word by maybe
  one or two chars. This is
  nothing very difficult as
  any crossword solver will
  attest.

"take a possibility", "as author seems it is", "not even native speaker".

It's simple to fulfil the requirements, making it flow naturally is not. Also, any mistake early on in any paragraph will have cascading effects.

  • The parent makes a good point. Maybe I am jaded, but this isn't a scarily impressive feat of linguistics. It is mildly interesting that someone put the time into this. I would be impressed if it were done on a typewriter. Maybe this rewrite helps clarify the point.

      Do you think its possible
      you can be both right and
      wrong? The feat might not
      be as crazy as the author
      claims to think. I myself
      can think of many ways to
      achieve it. Come to think
      of it, it may actually be
      even easier because lines
      in that guide afford more
      ways to be broken because
      they are longer. I am not
      even a native speaker.

    • Brick-texting isn't actually that hard, in short isolated bursts. Other geometric texts are not necessarily much harder, But, keeping it up over any length is somewhat impressive.

      I think the most "simultaneously observed forms" were brick-text with an acrosticon down the left-most column, or brick-text in iambic pentameter. I have attempted observing all tree, if ended badly.

  •   As somebody said, I am just a
      random guy on the Internet. I
      learned this language already
      as an adult never attending a
      single lesson. There is a lot
      of other people that know the
      language way better than me.
    
      Thinking that it must be hard
      just because it is for you is
      a well known bias.
    

    (EDIT:)

    Gigablah, I can't reply to your comment because apparently I am rate limited.

    I am not saying it is easy. I am just saying it is not "most scarily/stunningly impressive linguistic feat".

    I hope you can appreciate there is a lot of space between "easy" and "stunningly impressive".

    •   It is easy to do this. All you
        do is write some text upfront,
        and go line by line and swap a
        few words to make the line fit
        in the margin. Use small words
        to make it easier.

    • Conversely, thinking that it must be easy just because it is for you is an even more well-known bias.

      I can even think of an entire industry dedicated to countering this bias.

I suppose one only has to adjust the line length by at most half a word per line. It's impressive, but it's not exactly iambic pentameter.

Also the author gives himself the liberty to use one or two spaces following a period, and on occasion even following a comma.

  • I disagree that this is important. Search for a double space, and you will see only four that are inside a paragraph, and only one of those is after a comma. There are more stray spaces after the end of a line than there are double spaces inside of a paragraph.