Comment by polote

4 years ago

> Although I have nothing against motorbikes I'm not cool at all with basically motorbikes getting a free pass because they're disguised as bicycles.

A free pass for what ?

You dont need a motor to reach 40kph on a bike, plenty of people can do it with only their legs. What we can do is limit the speed on bike lanes, but that means we could allow any vehicule on it. There is no reason a motorbike couldn't go on a bike lane if it goes slower than 20kh as most people on bike reach that speed.

It is not because you are on a bike that you have to go on a bike lane.

> What we can do is limit the speed on bike lanes, but that means we could allow any vehicule on it.

No, we can't because of momentum. We could never allow a car or a heavy motorcycle to drive on pedestrian/bike lines even if they are at low speeds.

  • Less momentum than the rapidity with which momentum can change (power output vs weight, i.e., energy output).

Speed limit on bike lanes in the city is 30 kph, outside it is 45. So those rules already exist (here, in NL).

  • What is the max speed of the bike you made jacquesm? I note from the start of the article that low speed of alternatives was one of your motivations. I saw the range stats in the last paragraph but didn't notice speed stats (perhaps I missed that?)

    • 45 kph flat out, if you try to go faster you are fighting the motor. But practically you're going to top out at about 40 kph on the Bosch system, using a Stromer or a Klever s-pedelec you will be able to maintain that 45 kph a lot longer. But 38 is plenty for me, it's still a bike and the little bit of extra speed does not weigh up against the risks.