Comment by mytailorisrich

4 years ago

British limited companies are probably among the simplest and cheapest to incorporate and manage in the world but, well, the UK is no longer in the EU...

I have never understood why countries slap so much red tape and so many fees on this. The UK has got it right, IMHO: make it as cheap and simple as possible, there are only upsides [Edit: for society/the state] to people starting up a business.

Yup, costs £12 to incorporate, and it can be done entirely online. Then £12 a year to maintain.

The last time I incorporated a company in the UK it took a grand total of 35 minutes from start to actually having an incorporated company.

>there are only upsides to people starting up a business.

that is not true at all. The majority of business ventures fail and a lot of small businesses aren't productive, and at the end of the day someone needs to pick the tab up. Even Thiel used to say, don't start a business until you have a very good reason to.

What you actually want is to incentivize the kind of people to start a business who have a high chance of driving innovation and bringing about large, productive firms, you don't really want an army of self-employed people with low capital formation in a developed country.

  • I meant that there are only upsides for society and the state. Sure the people and investors who start a business take a risk, but the state does not: If the new business fails the state loses nothing, if the new business succeeds then wealth and taxes are produced. So make it as simple and cheap as possible to incorporate and to run a business and reap the benefits later.

    (I have edited my previous comment to clarify)

    • >but the state does not

      the state takes a pretty big amount of risk and costs. Who pays healthcare, who pays maternity leave and social security in a fast and loose labor market like that? The answer in the US often is, nobody or the federal government.

      In a country like Germany, France or in Scandinavia running a business is harder because there's an expectation that businesses can take care of their workers. A lot of red tape exists to make sure that a business can shoulder these things. In fact in Scandinavia eliminating unproductive firms through measures like wage compression was deliberately part of their social model to drive concentration and creation of productive firms.

      There really are a lot of implications to creating the sort of environment that the US or to a lesser extent the UK has, and it doesn't work well with the economic model of most of Europe.

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  • >at the end of the day someone needs to pick the tab up

    Only if they have debt. Some companies never take on debt and then fail.

    • And that would be a non-issue, because the lender would be taking a calculated risk. Businesses of all size go bankrupt all the time.