Comment by herlitzj
4 years ago
I honestly thought this was going to be a joke post because that top image is ridiculous. Maybe I'm just old, but it reads to me as
Web 1.0: Great
Web 2.0: Ugh, ok
Web 3.0: You're serious with this?
4 years ago
I honestly thought this was going to be a joke post because that top image is ridiculous. Maybe I'm just old, but it reads to me as
Web 1.0: Great
Web 2.0: Ugh, ok
Web 3.0: You're serious with this?
It's not Web 3.0, that was the semantic web, which also aimed in some sense to be decentralized data but wasn't about turning the internet itself into a vehicle for ridicules investment ponzi-schemes. The "new" one is Web3
This is what bugs me most about this whole web3 situation, if people want to dump their money into these ponzi-scheme pump and dump bs be my guest, but then naming it web3 isn't very nice.
To then attach all kinds of good qualities to it that are not shown, nor proven, and often demonstrable incorrect just finishes it off.
As you say, a lot of the bigger ideas claimed to be part of this "new" web3 thing aren't new, and are interesting ideas that should be further explored, it would be much better without the ponzi sauce.
web3 = Web 4.0 I guess ?
(Just like IPv5 never got anywhere ??)
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Agreed - the UX mock up there looks awful. If you go look at coinmarketcap.com there are already hundreds of coins out there. Are users going to have to find their wallet from hundreds/thousands on the lists? Or are maybe not all sites going to support every wallet, so therefore you're going to need to have multiple wallets to support multiple sites ... suddenly that "consistent identity" fails as you are actually juggling 20-30+ wallets for logging into different sites.
.... or it ends up that everyone just logs in using an ethereum wallet and you're back to centralisation.
The image amplifies what we already know is a fundamental problem with OAuth; people, instead of forgetting their username/password combo, now are forgetting which provider they use to sign into a service.
That "Web 3.0 login" portion of the slide only makes that problem worse. Decentralization and a variety of choices absolutely fall apart when they meet non-tech users who have no idea what icon means what.
>The image amplifies what we already know is a fundamental problem with OAuth; people, instead of forgetting their username/password combo, now are forgetting which provider they use to sign into a service.
I already have this problem with Matrix/Element all the time. Not only do I forget my username and/or password on networks I've been logged into for months, I also forget homeserver addresses and all these other settings I had to set up at some point. Every time I get logged out of something, it takes a day or two to figure out how to get back in.
I had the same thought. Imagine listing all blockchains in tiny icons you scroll sideways. I suppose that can be done a lot better, but still, who decides which blockchains are included and which are not?
Precisely. Or what if you're some random grandma that has a wallet (since we're living in a make believe world where this is easy to create). Imagine you've forgotten which blockchain your wallet is on. Will there be a search box to find my wallet in this mess of combinatorics that is a login page?
I mined a teeny tiny bit of Dogecoin years ago. One of the times it spiked in price, I decided to convert my teeny tiny bit into Etherium. So I used a wallet on a cryptocurrency trading site.
Do you know what site that was? I don’t. I can’t remember. I think the password may be in my password manager, but I’m not sure. I’d have to go digging.
But I am SURE I’ll remember which of the 1200 common block chains I use for my credentials.
Because that’s insane. Normal users couldn’t deal with that. Highly technical users can’t deal with that. It’s too much of a pain in the ass.
The solution is that there should only be one or two chains that everyone uses. Then there’s only one or two little icons you need.
The people who run the trains could make sure they keep running by having tens of thousands of computers. Of course that cost money. Luckily they get money out of the block chain because they can spend coins.
Of course users don’t really like buying things. Maybe it wouldn’t be too hard to put an ad or two in there to pay for things.
The easiest thing to get users on board is to use brands they trust. No normal person is going to trust everything they have two the Kakarot blockchain with an anime superhero for a logo.
Do you know who people trust? Facebook and Google. If they were to…
Oops. I invented today. Only with much more energy use.