Comment by Grustaf

3 years ago

I must warn you, I haven't lived in Sweden for almost a decade so saying that I'm saying the same things as "the far right extremists" in SD (who is actually a Social-Democratic party) doesn't really work. I really don't care if Nazis, Communists or cannibals share my concern.

> Sweden also requires a large swath of ever-dwindling low-skilled, workforce, jobs that no Swede would do for the pay are currently taken by immigrants

Which is more correct do you think:

1. Before mass immigration, Sweden had no dish washers, garbage collectors or cleaners, so we had to open the borders to cheap labour.

2. When we imported cheap labour, salaries for low skilled work imploded (sort of the point) and THEN Swedes stopped wanting to do these jobs for lower pay.

> Neoliberalism policies

What aspect of this, apart from importing cheap labour, do you think has "created huge fractures"? Sure, too many companies have been privatised, lots of first world corruption. But what could possibly be more disruptive than replacing a third of the population with low skilled, low paid people from completely different cultures?

> These immigrants are then able to access the larger system of education for their kids, which will in a generation or two bump them up.

This is not happening in Sweden to any useful extent and you are probably perfectly aware of that. School results for 2nd generation immigrants are abysmal, and criminality for many groups is sky high. Politicians have promised that "integration will work soon and the investment will pay off" for 40 years now, but it hasn't materialised. What makes you think it will ever happen?

> You simply can't grasp it and it's ok, you haven't experienced it in a way that's shaped and molded you as an adult.

I haven't even been there, I was flippant. But I think we should turn this around. I grew up in Sweden when it was the safest place on Earth, you grew up in Brazil. Who do you think has a better understanding of the decline of Swedish society? Do you think that perhaps you might be judging it by Brazilian standards, and that's why it's not "gloomy"?

> Sweden is still, by all accounts globally, a very safe country.

It's probably still safer than Rio, but it's definitely not "safe":

https://rmx.news/article/sweden-is-the-most-dangerous-countr...