Comment by throwawayffffas

4 years ago

I don't know where you are at, but I know for a fact that a scan of a signed document is binding in the EU. As far as I understand it doesn't even have to be a scanned document, you can sing a digital document by adding an image of your signature or just using your finger and a touchscreen.

In the US from what I read[1] the situation is pretty much the same a scan of a signed document is binding as well as non cryptographic electronic signatures.

[1] https://resources.infosecinstitute.com/topic/legality-electr...

Even a spoken agreement is a legal binding. But it's always best to get it on paper, and if it's important, also use at least two witnesses.

  • This.

    Generally speaking in most countries the civil law does not specify how the contract is supposed to be made. You can buy from the shop with just a nod of your head. Only some specific agreements have to be written down (and even fewer made in front of the notary).

Huh, I'm from EU. But what I remember from lectures on digital documents, they said something different. Will have to look up this stuff.

  • It has been four hours, OP is nowhere to be seen. I hope they're okay amidst all the legalese.

    More seriously, do let us know what you find. I've heard both sides on this but the "verbal agreement is also binding (just gl proving it)" side is usually from better sources like an actual lawyer posting on a forum as opposed to a random boss making claims about signature requirements, for example.

    • > from better sources like an actual lawyer posting on a foru

      Yeah, you're right. Please do not take me as an authority or lawyer on that matters. It's just what I think I know, but I may very well be wrong :)

      What I read is that even informational documents are considered in court. However document that bears legal validity, must contain: document name, date, signature (with exceptions) and recipient.

      However I did found a relevant quote:

      > Section 5. > (1) A document shall be signed in one's own hand. A document of the organization shall be signed by the person whose position is indicated in the document. A personal signature reproduced in a paper document using technical means shall not ensure legal force of the document.

      https://likumi.lv/ta/en/en/id/210205-law-on-legal-force-of-d...

      But I'm not sure if print->sign->scan qualifies, as the signature itself isn't put there with technical means. But this rules out putting image as a signature on PDF.

      This is not talking about e-documents. E-document states that it must be signed with secure electronic signature.

      I know Latvian people are reading this too and this document is very helpful in that regard: https://www.tm.gov.lv/lv/media/7605/download

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