Comment by throw0101a

4 years ago

10BASE-T1L allows Ethernet over a single pair of cables at 1000m:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_over_twisted_pair#Sin...

Even more incredible, ADSL works over wet string:

https://www.revk.uk/2017/12/its-official-adsl-works-over-wet...

  • Is it really surprising that ADSL2, which was apparently designed to work "up to 5000 meters" of copper, can work over 2 meters of wet string? Wet salty string being 1/2500th as conductive as copper wire doesn't seem too far fetched.

This is exactly what I have been looking to find for connecting a camera at my front gate to my house, which are over 1/4 mile away from each other.

Anything commercially available?

  • Generally focused in the industrial space:

    * https://e2e.ti.com/blogs_/b/analogwire/posts/how-10base-t1ls...

    * https://www.altronix.com/products/Pace1KL

    • On the first one, yeah, TI's got chips (so do a few other vendors), but I'm not competent at designing (or building) ethernet circuits, so I need someone else to put a 10Base-T1L PHY back to back with a 10Base-T PHY, and do those other things.

      Pace1KL looks interesting, but the price (seems to be $129 each) is too high for me, especially since I'd need to supply PoE on both sides. In an ideal world, I'd get one unit which was powered and was a PSE (power sourcing equipment), and the other unit was a PD (powered device), so I didn't need to find a safe place to tap power where my line ends. Of course, in an even more ideal world, I'd have two pairs so I could run standard ethernet :)

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