Comment by nobody9999

5 years ago

>Does dq mean dequeue? Ironically, Grammarly would automatically expand your in-house abbreviations to make your writing more clear.

I thought it meant "Dairy Queen[0]." Yummy[1], yummy Dairy Queen!

Using shortened/abbreviated forms without explanation is a recipe for misunderstanding.

Generally, writing out whatever will be abbreviated/shortened and noting the abbreviation/shortening is preferred, as it removes the ambiguity of just using an abbreviation.

For example, If I say that I'm going to "The Met," that could mean I'm going to the Metropolitan Museum of Art[2], the Metropolitan Opera[3] or The Metropolitan Police[4]. Which institution is implied may be clear from the context, but could be confusing.

Many years ago, I shared a taxi with a couple on my way to work at American Express. When I said I was going to "Amex," they assumed I was going to the American Stock Exchange and since their offices were quite close to that organization's offices, we decided to travel together.

Fortunately, the offices of American Express and the American Stock Exchange were both in the World Financial Center[5] (albeit at opposite ends), there wasn't an issue.

That said, clearly identifying shortened forms is extremely important, especially in writing, as you can't correct a reader's assumptions as to what you're going on about.

This applies to "dq" above, as well as many other acronyms and abbreviations. This article[6] discusses the issue at some length:

   Most abbreviations do require a definition. In
   any case where readers might be confused by TLAs 
   three letter abbreviations), it's important that 
   they be defined in the text or in a Table of 
   Abbreviations. A research proposal or article 
   with complicated and confusing abbreviations is 
   one that will quickly face rejection. The problem 
   is that authors become so familiar with 
   abbreviations that they forget to define them.

And since I (or anyone else) can't know what's in your mind unless you tell me, I may take an abbreviation[6] to mean something (like Dairy Queen) that the writer didn't intend.

[0] https://www.dairyqueen.com

[1] https://www.dairyqueen.com/en-us/menu/treats/classic-treats/

[2] https://www.metmuseum.org/

[3] https://www.metopera.org/

[4] https://www.met.police.uk/

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brookfield_Place_(New_York_Cit...

[6] I'm using "abbreviations" here to mean abbreviations (e.g., Amex for American Express), acronyms (e.g. NAFTA for North Amerian Free Trade Agreement) and initialisms (e.g., TCP for Transmission Control Protocol, FBI for Federal Bureau of Investigation).

  • >This looks like forum sliding to me. Everybody knows what was meant by DQ, the context made it obvious.

    I didn't know what "forum sliding" was either.

    Apparently, it's this[0]:

    "Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'

    If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items."

    ===

    I'm not really sure how that applies here.

    What, exactly, do you suppose I'm trying to distract others from seeing?

    Please do elucidate, especially since it ought to increase the visibility of whatever it is you think I'm trying to obfuscate.

    Thanks!

    [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21165439

    • >especially since it ought to increase the visibility

      No, writing paragraphs of irrelevance (you didn't genuinely interpret DQ to mean Dairy Queen so the large comment you wrote about that misinterpretation was just sheer noise) doesn't increase the visibility of what you're trying to obfuscate, it shifts the signal/noise ratio downwards. It pollutes and derails the discussion.

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  • >This looks like forum sliding to me. Everybody knows what was meant by DQ, the context made it obvious.

    I guess I'm not a member of the group "Everybody" then.

    Does that mean I'm stupid?

    Or does it mean that folks shouldn't assume that others know everything they do. IIRC, that usually comes around age four or five.