Isn't it though? Doesn't the ultimate responsibility for government lie with the people themselves? Don't they always have the option of civil disobedience or armed rebellion? Aren't they directly responsible for failing to take those options, thereby allowing their government to do harm?
People have zero choice in where they are born, and after that they have when they reach the age of majority (and sometimes earlier) still zero control over where the rest of their family lives and not everybody is made to be an immigrant.
I hear this a lot and I always wonder which country would you choose to be born in and why? Because there is something wrong with almost every country, and the causes usually lie well in the past. At the same time people do have agency, but for many the price to pay is too high and so they move to apathy or wilful ignoring of what is happening around them. I've seen this first hand. The peer pressure to keep your head down and to keep your mouth shut lest you get the people near to you in trouble can be enormous and that's the first barrier you need to contend with before you get to deal with the billyclubs and the nightsticks, eventually usually jail and being beaten up, raped or even killed.
So have some respect, understand that this is not a simple black-and-white matter and understand that on the far side of the line you do have allies and that their life right now is super hard. Not as hard as the lives in the country that is being invaded so that's where the weight should come down. But hard nonetheless.
Yes, no one chooses where they were born. But everyone does choose what to do about the injustice perpetrated by their governments.
> but for many the price to pay is too high and so they move to apathy or wilful ignoring of what is happening around them
And thereby become complicit. If you witness a rape in the street, and you keep your head down for fear of your own safety, you, by your inaction and cowardice, are allowing the act to perpetuate. These are not qualities worthy of respect. Yes it's scary to risk your own skin, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be the ideal we hold ourselves to.
If Ukrainians can take up arms against Putin's tyranny, surely Russians can as well.
> Don't they always have the option of civil disobedience or armed rebellion?
Yeah, North Korean people are just too complacent and lazy as well, that's why they fail to utilize the option of civil disobedience or armed rebellion. I wish we had someone go and tell them this one little trick that they were not aware of. /s
Yes in fact the North Koreans do have this option. It's just scary and dangerous. People can't hold power without the cooperation of everyone involved.
That is not always an option. I think even in countries like US armed rebellion would be classified as domestic terrorism and suppressed violently by the government nowadays.
Isn't it though? Doesn't the ultimate responsibility for government lie with the people themselves? Don't they always have the option of civil disobedience or armed rebellion? Aren't they directly responsible for failing to take those options, thereby allowing their government to do harm?
People have zero choice in where they are born, and after that they have when they reach the age of majority (and sometimes earlier) still zero control over where the rest of their family lives and not everybody is made to be an immigrant.
I hear this a lot and I always wonder which country would you choose to be born in and why? Because there is something wrong with almost every country, and the causes usually lie well in the past. At the same time people do have agency, but for many the price to pay is too high and so they move to apathy or wilful ignoring of what is happening around them. I've seen this first hand. The peer pressure to keep your head down and to keep your mouth shut lest you get the people near to you in trouble can be enormous and that's the first barrier you need to contend with before you get to deal with the billyclubs and the nightsticks, eventually usually jail and being beaten up, raped or even killed.
So have some respect, understand that this is not a simple black-and-white matter and understand that on the far side of the line you do have allies and that their life right now is super hard. Not as hard as the lives in the country that is being invaded so that's where the weight should come down. But hard nonetheless.
Yes, no one chooses where they were born. But everyone does choose what to do about the injustice perpetrated by their governments.
> but for many the price to pay is too high and so they move to apathy or wilful ignoring of what is happening around them
And thereby become complicit. If you witness a rape in the street, and you keep your head down for fear of your own safety, you, by your inaction and cowardice, are allowing the act to perpetuate. These are not qualities worthy of respect. Yes it's scary to risk your own skin, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be the ideal we hold ourselves to.
If Ukrainians can take up arms against Putin's tyranny, surely Russians can as well.
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This is naive. Despite what western propaganda might tell you, the majority of Russian population very much supports their government.
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> Don't they always have the option of civil disobedience or armed rebellion?
Yeah, North Korean people are just too complacent and lazy as well, that's why they fail to utilize the option of civil disobedience or armed rebellion. I wish we had someone go and tell them this one little trick that they were not aware of. /s
Yes in fact the North Koreans do have this option. It's just scary and dangerous. People can't hold power without the cooperation of everyone involved.
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That is not always an option. I think even in countries like US armed rebellion would be classified as domestic terrorism and suppressed violently by the government nowadays.
USA been letting some armed crazies do some wild shit tho.
ah yes - because Russia has had an exemplary representative democracy since the fall of the soviet union
hatred of Russian people has spiked like crazy lately. I've seen calls to deport Russian nationals from the US even.