Comment by sergiotapia
3 years ago
Nah that article is old as hell - time for new information. Things change.
I also despise how many people want to shit on this new language before it even takes off. Why are so many people frothing at the chance to disparage this language and it's author? Never seen something like this.
Mostly because the author completely scammed the shit out of people by promising a ton of things to garner patreon support before open sourcing what was essentially a hobby project at the time. I haven't followed it very closely, but last I heard about it was not delivering on the "autofree" feature.
I dont really care about the language. I've tried it a couple times and it's nothing special (to me) so I moved on, but I definitely understand where the hate comes from. The author essentially lied for at least months about his project to get financial support.
Quick edit: to actually add to the discussion, I think the weirdest thing about V is the odd support it does get. Most projects, especially compilers, with as much controversy as V would never get any support. I'm very curious what its proponents are using it for and why they choose V over pretty much any other language.
you heard wrong, it's been delivering quite well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmB8ea8uLsM
no one has been scammed, whatever that means in opensource development
Oh, that's really cool to hear! I'm glad that they've turned around.
So, where can I download the version of V with non-nullable references, no uninitialized memory, no mutation without call-site mutability annotations, that can compile 1M loc/sec, and a functional autofree?
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> Why are so many people frothing at the chance to disparage this language and it's author?
It's because of all the lying. The author keeps claiming that their language has features that it definitely does not have.
Why do so many people consider "I checked several notable claims, and most of them are false" to be some kind of hateful disparaging attack?
Can you list the false claims here? 1. 2. 3.
Shouldn't be hard, if "most claims" are false according to you.
I was referring to both the original post, and Xe's older post that this comment thread is about. They both list claims made by V and describe details how they tested those claims and what their results were.
https://mawfig.github.io/2022/06/18/v-lang-in-2022.html https://xeiaso.net/blog/v-vaporware-2019-06-23
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Because no other new languages lied that much?
>Things change.
Based on submitted link, they don't.
It's been around for a few years now.
100% right. It's sick. As a donor and supporter of this VALIANT AND VALID effort, I applaud the V community. It's full of sincere passion, love and is putting forth a great effort to realize something useful and needed in this sector.
So you think it's okay to lie and mislead people?
You're going round the comments and telling everybody how wrong they are. Do you have any thing to say about concerns raised in the blog post? Or would you say that it's a lie and all the points raised are based on falsehood?
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