Comment by sneak

4 years ago

You should use a VPN anyway if you're going to torrent.

Not in France, at least not immediately. The antipiracy authority first sends you an email (1st warning), then an IRL letter (2nd warning). When you receive the IRL letter, THEN you should VPN (or SOCKS or whatever) for one year, then you can go turn it off until you receive your 2nd warning again, if that happens.

I received my fair share of 1st warnings during the past ~15 years. I only received my first 2nd warning this year. I configured a systemd service `ssh -D myvps` and configured deluged to use this SOCKS5 proxy. Waiting for next April to turn it off...

  • I don't get it, why would you want to put yourself on their radar at all? Why not just use a VPN from the start?

    • Because I don't care? What worse can happen to me?

      I firmly believe that sharing "cultural products" (sic) between individuals not seeking profit should not be illegal, and that any attempt to restrict this is vain at best, and most likely counter-productive for society as a whole.

  • > I received my fair share of 1st warnings during the past ~15 years.

    Out of curiosity, how has this changed over years? Are they getting worse or better? My feeling is that they are completely ineffective. Anecdotically, none of my friends living in France mentioned getting emails, and some of them do torrent with abandon.

    • Well I was surprised to receive the "lettre avec accusé de réception" recently. So HADOPI's not dead yet, unfortunately...

      Ineffective to prevent torrenting, they definitely are. But I think they are winning on the ideas front unfortunately. The idea that 'pirating' is immoral has made its way to the general public. I wonder if I'll see the time where everyone is convinced that you're stealing something when you lend a book to a friend, or when you play music in your house and some people that aren't spotify subscribers can hear it.

    • They are now pennyless and can't even send a letter if their lives depended on it. It's a complete failure.

why? I have never used a VPN for decades and terabytes of torrenting. Not a peep from my ISP (virgin media, uk)

  • Because not everyone lives in the UK? And even if you do, ISPs can store data long-term, waiting for the laws to change and then retroactively find which customers they should keep a closer eye on.

    Not to mention the non-ISP groups which also monitors the DHT for who downloads content they "own", ready to serve the data to governments at request.

    • Fair enough, that makes sense. I meant to ask "why should I", my miscommunication.