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Comment by prox

2 years ago

I wonder if we ever going to see anything other than Android or iOS. A third ecosystem wouldn’t be so bad.

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simonh  2 years ago

I don’t see how it can happen, on the same way we’ve been stuck with the Mac and DOS/Windows duopoly since the 80s. The problem is a new platform isn’t just competing with the established OSes themselves, it’s also competing with the associated peripheral, software and services ecosystems. Those consist of thousands of companies providing thousands of products and services worth trillions of dollars. There’s just no way to get traction against that from a standing start.

  • sofixa  2 years ago

    > I don’t see how it can happen, on the same way we’ve been stuck

    In-between Chromebooks and generic Linux distros (say what you will about the year of Linux on the desktop, use is only growing; slow paced or not, doesn't matter), specialised Linux distros (SteamOS - you might think it doesn't matter, it's only for a handheld console, the Steam Deck, but it will force many games to have Linux compatibility. And one of the main things keeping many tech savvy users on Windows is gaming) i think a duopoly is a bit of a strong word, and it's getting disrupted.

    • simonh  2 years ago

      Oh sure, I was mainly addressing the current mobile OS landscape with the desktop as a historical case in point, but you're right. There have always been alternative options, especially for niche use cases. I think there are several things happening there right now. One is the erosion of the desktop as a native application platform, if you mainly only care about web apps then the desktop OS isn't an issue because the web is already a powerful platform.

      The other is the advanced state of Windows emulation for games, you can bypass the platform effect if you can piggy back on an established platform's APIs. That's tricky though, plenty of mobile OSes tried to get traction with Android APK compatibility, but the problem with that is, why bother developing native apps for them? With games consoles it's a different situation, maybe emulation in the long term is just fine.

  • frr149  2 years ago

    HarmonyOS is the only thing really new that I've seen , but I wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pole.

    • helf  2 years ago

      Um. HarmonyOS is literally just Android. It’s not even remotely new. There’s even. Android/Google copyright notices left in it.

jayelbe  2 years ago

This is exactly what Nokia were working on; the N9 ran Meego, a Linux-based OS Nokia had been developing for years. There had been a string of "internet tablets" (eg N800, N810) and phones (N900) running Maemo, a precursor to Meego. They even bought QT as part of the development!

Meego, running on the N9, was an absolutely wonderful experience. It was smooth, fast, beautifully designed, and had simple elegant swipe-based navigation system, it had multiprocess app switching (AFAIK before iPhone OS did) and a brilliant newsfeed/notification system. It felt like it really had extraordinary potential. And Elop ditched it.

  • prox  2 years ago

    It really sounds it should have been given a chance. Did they ever open source it to give other Linux OS’ a chance?