Comment by ketzo

4 years ago

"Hate the message" is a huge oversimplification.

People don't want Stormfront gone for aesthetic reasons. They want Stormfront and similar sites gone because they encourage physical violence against certain peoples.

It is, IMO, a huge strawman to say that people just "don't like" these sites.

And it's a huge strawman to imply I said people just wanted SF gone for aesthetic reasons.

At any rate, if "hate the message" of SF is inappropriate, what would you suggest instead? I, and many other people, strongly disagree with the ideas that most people on SF advocate for. I think that "hate their message" works just fine there.

  • How about stop the violence and harassment?

    It's not just a message or speech. It involves IRL stocking, harassment, and violence against people they target based on hate and discrimination.

    • It is not possible for violence to occur via the internet. And if you believe that posts on the site somehow constitutes harassment to an illegal degree, contact law enforcement.

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If encouraging violence against people is the standard you're on, then any website should be gone, including HN.

What you actually mean is that as long as its against people you personally dislike, then you're ok with that.

  • Exactly. You can go on Reddit right now and find calls for violence, extermination of various groups, etc etc etc, but you’ll never see cloudfare take action then.

    Censorship always starts with the undesirables. It never ends there.