Comment by vladf

4 years ago

Have you heard the piano continuations of AudioLM?

https://google-research.github.io/seanet/audiolm/examples/

Pretty sure the first continuation is a famous piece with a few notes messed up. Can't remember the name. Honestly it only sounds marginally better than the old markov chain continuations.

  • Isn’t that as good as it gets? The whole point of the continuations is that given a short leading prompt from a real piece that it should continue it realistically.

    It didn’t get to train on the test set, if that’s what you’re implying, and I find it hard to believe the assertion that continuations are copies of the train set (if that’s your claim).

Indeed, there is lots of denial or ignorance in this thread (ignorance in the technical sense). AudioLM already produced impressive results and it's a tiny fraction of what is already possible because performance simply improves with scale. One can probably solve music generation today with a ~$1B budget for most purposes like film or game music, or personalized soundtracks. This is not science fiction.

  • I don't see a lot of progress in AudioLM compared to results from 2018: https://storage.googleapis.com/magentadata/papers/maestro/in...

    What's more interesting and concerning - listen carefully to the first piano continuation example from AudioLM, notice the similarity of the last 7 seconds to Moonlight sonata: https://youtu.be/4Tr0otuiQuU?t=516

    I'm afraid we will see a lot of this with music generation models in the near future.

    • There are quite simple tricks to avoid repetition/copying in NNs, e.g. by (1) training a model to predict the "popularity" of the main model's outputs and penalizing popular/copied productions by backpropping through that model so as to decrease the predicted popularity, or (2) by conditioning on random inputs (LLMs can be prompted with imaginary "ID XXX" prefixes before each example to mitigate repetitions), or (3) by increasing temperature or optimizing for higher entropy. LLM outputs are already extremely diverse and verbatim copying is not a huge issue at all. The point being, all evidence points to this not being a show stopper if you massage these evolutionary methods for long enough in one or more of the various right ways.

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