Comment by HelloMcFly
4 years ago
It almost beggars belief to have to say that of course the vaccine testing is on efficacy of infection prevention, not transmissibility. But wouldn't you know it? The less likely you are to get infected and the faster your body clears the virus, the less the virus is or can be transmitted. Yes, peak viral load for infections that do "breakthrough" may be the same as unvaccinated. That's not a smoking gun.
There is a lot of sinister stuff happening in our world, a lot of coordinated efforts against labor and the working class. Tying that narrative to a conspiracies about COVID vaccines rightly nudges you into conspiracy theorist territory.
And that is the last comment I will ever make about vaccines on this site.
You admit to there being coordinated efforts against labor and the working class - so how do you deal with the cognitive dissonance with 1) the history that the pharmaceutical industry continuously being a very bad actor with the reward of billions in profit, 2) that pharma industry in the U.S. (for example) accounts for something like 80% of the advertising revenue on all mainstream-legacy media channels (capturing the narrative of what news is able to air), and 3) practically all U.S. politicians on both the Republic and Democrat side are given $$ - lobbied by the pharmaceutical industry?
The rest of what you shared seems to be relatively shallow narratives you've been trained/programmed to believe for you to then parrot.
My question above isn't about "vaccines" - so hopefully you're willing to answer and won't avoid the cognitive dissonance you're certain to encounter if you attempt to answer it; or perhaps we'll see what mental gymnastics you need to use to dismiss the multiple very clear conflicts of interest and guaranteed-obvious influence that pharma has on our society via politicians that make policy decisions - and via narratives propagated to the masses via mainstream-legacy media channels.
There is zero cognitive dissonance for me. I freely admit to everything you stipulated above in paragraph 1. But none of those statements logically flows to your conclusion, despite how strongly you seem to think they do. Such statements of fact do not implicitly or explicitly compromise the quality of the science and the weight of the evidence for vaccine efficacy, especially when those results are independently verified using multi-source methods.
> The rest of what you shared seems to be relatively shallow narratives you've been trained/programmed to believe for you to then parrot.
What more does this merit than an eye roll? You know nothing about me, but you're telling me all I need to know about you. It's frankly distressing, but such are the times.
> There is zero cognitive dissonance for me. I freely admit to everything you stipulated above in paragraph 1. But none of those statements logically flows to your conclusion, despite how strongly you seem to think they do. Such statements of fact do not implicitly or explicitly compromise the quality of the science and the weight of the evidence for vaccine efficacy, especially when those results are independently verified using multi-source methods.
You didn't actually support any of your statements or specifically state what's wrong with my logic, you're just saying them as matter of fact - but such are the times.
"Coordinated efforts against labor and the working class" doesn't convince anyone of anything. Almost every company ever tried to pay their workers the least they could get away with. There are also "coordinated efforts by labor against the wealthy class" - ie union organizing. Every worker in the world hopes to get paid more, even me. But there's no coordinated effort to lie to you about the fact that covid vaccine helps protect you from getting covid. No one made all the scientists believe that a virus causes covid. Fauci didn't want to get people vaccinated because he was being paid, he studied public health and wasn't an idiot, that is all it took for those professionals to see we should encourage vaccination.