Comment by scarface74
3 years ago
It doesn’t prevent “ewaste” if phone makers (mostly low end Android phone makers) still bundle shoddy cables, stores are still allowed to sell shoddy cables, etc.
And USB C is not free of licensing requirements
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/450494/are-u...
A “good” USB C cable that supports all of the things I said - high speed data, video over USB, etc - costs around $15. The same price as an Anker Lightning cable.
A random USB C cable doesn’t support video over USB - something I need for my portable secondary display.
The iPads with USB C already support this. I have no reason to believe that the next iPhone won’t.
> A “good” USB C cable that supports all of the things I said - high speed data, video over USB, etc - costs around $15. The same price as an Anker Lightning cable.
But the Lightning cable won't support high speed data. And if you want video over Lightning you can't just use a cable, you need an adapter with an embedded computer to decompress the output.
A USB C cable that has the same capabilities as that Lightning cable is 2-3 dollars.
The EU is suppose to be mandating a “standard”. What good is a “standard” that doesn’t support the “standard”?
USB C cables that come with the iPad supports all of those standards. What are the chances that unsuspecting users in the EU dancing in the streets go in an buy a “standard USB C” and find out that it doesn’t work when they get ready to plug their phone to the TVs or when they find out the promise of “USB3 speeds” because it was the “standard” is a lie because the EU didn’t mandate that as part of the standard?
Personally I like that the cables can get better over time, I just want them to have the speed labeled on them.
But this is a charging standard and for charging all cables are the same for the vast majority of devices.
All the stuff that might break because I don't have high speed data is no worse than lightning which never has high speed data*.
*Except for a single model of iPad.
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People just want to charge their phones. Maybe if someone actually cares about USB3 transfer speeds, they'll go buy the slightly more expensive cable for that. It's not like TVs even have USB-C.
And I don't think this reduces ewaste. It's about the same.
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It's not free, but it's cheap. A good USB-C cable costs less than $5, not $15. You hardly ever need a good one either, just one for charging.
Re ewaste, that's a different topic. I'm just talking about licensing fees.
Can that $5 USB C cable support data transfers at USB3 speeds and video over USB C?
USB C also has licensing fees. The stated reason was to prevent “ewaste” and yes you can buy a $5 lightning cable.
Here is a 3 pack for $10
https://a.co/d/8FB2naZ
You're actually right about the video -C cables. That feature costs extra, and I didn't notice the first time. But it's rare to need one, and they'll get cheaper over time.
That 3-pack MFi Lightning for $10 is a new phenomenon. It was never like that before. I can believe it's not fake, just cheap cause it's old tech and on its way out.
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