Comment by jefftk

3 years ago

If you read the actual fraud charges [1] it does list the demo video, but along with very clear lies like saying it "fully functions and works" at an unveiling for the Nikola One or "Nikola is producing [hydrogen] well below $4 a kilogram" when the charge says In fact, Nikola has never produced any hydrogen at any price, nor at the time could it have produced hydrogen for below $4 per kilogram. To the contrary, Nikola has never obtained a permit to produce hydrogen or installed the equipment necessary to produce hydrogen. At the time that MILTON was claiming that Nikola was producing hydrogen for less than $4 per kilogram, it was in fact purchasing hydrogen from a supplier for $16 per kilogram.

(Something can also be fraud without being a lie.)

[1] https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/former-nikola-corporati...

> but along with very clear lies like saying it "fully functions and works"

"The driver is only in the seat for legal purposes. The car is driving itself."

Not in any way that any other Tesla on the road could drive itself, with HD maps and custom tuned firmware for that route.

  • A person seeing it would reasonably conclude that the claim wasn't specific to this exact situation, which makes this misleading, but not technically lying.

    (I still think it's bad, and am not a Tesla fan)

    • It is a lie by omission, some facts are so important to a statement that eliding them is lying. You can't just say that the driver wasn't necessary when he had to intervene in your other tests, it is like saying that the safety net for your line dancer isn't needed even though he would have fallen and died many times over without it. Such lies kills people.