Comment by runarberg
3 years ago
Why are you so sure that people wouldn’t agree to that? Do you see consistent polling data across generations indicating this trend? Is the popular opinion against climate relief funds in Europe? Are people in Denmark opposed to revenue from their garbage disposal/ski-hill going to climate relief in other countries? I don’t think so. And more importantly to your point, does polling suggest people are more willing to invest in carbon sequestration technology as a climate action, rather than green infrastructure in foreign countries? Show me these polls, and show me a lasting trend, and I’ll consider your point.
As a counter I’d like to offer you that the German population was ready to suffer a deeper energy crisis for harder sanctions with Russia after the Ukraine invasion. Polling was consistent, showing a willingness to accept lower standard of living, if it meant a possibility that a war fought in a poorer country would end sooner. On an individual level participants in a prisoner dilemma studies show a consistent willing to accept a worse deal if it means more people will be better off. Neither psychology nor general polling is on your side.
No, the people will accept lower standard of living just fine. The only ones who insist on anything are governments who are consistently unwilling to sacrifice the corporate profits of the rich. And here carbon sequestration works perfectly, as it will take decades for this technology to be mature and rolled out at scale, all the while corporation can keep polluting and keep turning in record profits for their shareholders. Something that people in the ”developed word“ (ugh!) actually generally oppose.
Your argument is so painfully disingenuous it hurts. Everyone from Germany to America to Denmark has democratically elected governments, and you think that the reason they prioritize businesses is “corporate profits,” rather than the things people like that are associated with corporate profits (jobs, material goods, comfortable lifestyles)?
I’m from a third world country. My family that has moved to the developed world has pretty much universally pursued a high carbon footprint lifestyle (big house in the suburbs, SUV, etc., as soon as they could afford it.
If you poll Americans, you’ll see they’re willing to spend an average of $10 per month to mitigate climate change: https://apnews.com/article/8e6baa6c2d3badeb4e91b6e6d078a5c0. Maybe it’s a little higher in Europe but not much.