Comment by revelio

> Nobody asks such questions about climate change

They do actually. Climate doomers are not a pretty group. They do shit like glue themselves to roads and try to vandalize paintings because they're convinced (wrongly) that the world is ending. The outside view here is that these people are weird, dangerous and cultlike and you don't want to get involved with them.

So listening to those signals can actually work. That's the message of Zion Lights, who joined Extinction Rebellion and eventually quit, telling the world it isn't a green movement but rather a cult oriented around its leader Roger Hallam.

https://www.thefp.com/p/climate-activism-has-a-cult-problem

The people I worked with had big hearts and good intentions. Some are still my friends.

But there were red flags.

At my first XR media training, I was instructed to cry on television. “People need to see crying mothers,” Jamie Kelsey-Fry, the trainer and longtime XR activist, told me. “They need to be woken up to what they should really care about.”

What she calls red flags is the outside view.