Comment by that_guy_iain

3 years ago

Why not use a seedbox? Download torrent to the seedbox and then ftp home. This way you get the upload from a server which if you're on a private tracker (which you should be) you'll get good upload speeds, easy to hit the default seed requirements, and you'll get full download speed when you want to use it locally.

I recognize this is probably similar to asking about how to get into fight club, but any tips on how to find a private tracker? I assume it involves becoming part of a community, but I don’t even know where to start looking for the communities!

  • Been so long since I've even been in the community that I don't know any of the smaller forums but check out https://filesharingtalk.com/content/. Get known for being active and if there is still an IRC pop by there. The key once you're past the standard ones like TL, is to not be that hungry for invites, the less hungry you are the more places you get to. Maybe check out https://thepiratesociety.org/ which used to be a solid community 10 years ago but I dunno how it is nowadays.

    Or you can just buy one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/143939358334 for example is $2 and is the private (semi public - all the benefits of private but easy to get). It's the one I use. Buying invites can lead to getting banned but if you're just chilling out on TL then you'll be fine.

    A tip for private trackers. Only download new things and freeleech until you build up a buffer (You've uploaded more than you've downloaded)

  • This doesn't answer your question directly but it might help anyway. Usenet is an excellent (paid) alternative to climbing the private tracker ladder. All traffic is secure and effectively anonymous. Download is lightning fast. If you're on the right backbone there is an ocean of content. It's only missing very old, obscure stuff. It's MUCH easier than climbing that ladder and worrying about ratios.

    • Stuff is also taken down within about a day. This is really the problem with usenet.

      I actually find it much better for ancient stuff because my provider has 10 years retention and the DMCA takedowns only started a few years ago.

  • The common advice is to start out on RED (Redacted) by doing the interview, and climbing the pyramid from there. Use official recruitement to join other trackers, and with some patience you'll eventually have everything you need.

    • What really bugs me about these popular private trackers' interview processes is they too discriminate against VPNs. Like I know they think they have some private community of completely trustworthy angels, but I'm still not going to stick my non-anonymized neck out.

      So then what, find public Wifi somewhere to do their "interview" from, that they'll pass for a non-shared IP address? And then hang around there all day until your turn for the interview comes up? That's the conclusion I came to last time I looked at Red's requirements years ago.

      Also I just assume the interview processes have gotten much more competitive and inhuman due to the popularity, like everything these days. I got my Oink account by joining the IRC channel, and just asking nicely in a way that demonstrated a modicum of technical knowledge and reasonableness.

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  • there are a few subreddits that people offer invites/ask for them

    otherwise many have open signups randomly throughout the year

    the better ones are harder and often expect proof of previous seeding, like i've been in IPT for years with 7TB/2TB ratio but still not managed to find an invite to some of the more renowned ones.

Cost. If you've already got an old, cheap server lying around, then having an 8 TB box at home is very cheap. Say, $15 a month for Mullvad + power usage. Reputable seedboxes seem to be in the range of ~$60 a month for 8TB of storage. Obviously, if you want to scale beyond that, it's as simple as adding another 8 TB drive to your box at home, whereas a cloud seedbox would nearly double in price.

I don't really desire the added complexity of having my files somewhere else.

  • Seems same level of complexity to me as adding a VPN into the mix.

    • Not really. With a VPN, the only change is that the networking between A and B now go through a tunnel with no changes to A or B. But if you get a seedbox, A is completely removed from the picture and you just have a connection between B and C.

  • dude, at least for tv/movies, just use ultra.cc (cheapest plan) and kodi can connect to it via https so no need for vpn and you don't even need to to download anything - super easy

    you can even pay more if you really need plex

> Why not use a seedbox?

Mostly because I haven't been able to find a seedbox service I trust as much as mullvad. It's impossible to tell which ones will flip to copyright authorities as soon as a little bit of pressure is applied.

You don't even need to ftp it, you can run the client at home and it would connect to the seedbox through the swarm (or you can manually add a peer if needed)

  • This misses a major point of the seedbox: that you don't have to run torrent on your residential connection.

  • Tell me more please.

    • ?

      You add the torrent to the seedbox torrent client and your (eg) home torrent client.

      They are both become part of the swarm for that torrent, through the tracker or DHT, so eventually they would know about each other.

      If your seedbox dowload the chunk then you home client can connect to the seedbox client and download that chunk, just as a regular participant of the swarm, no need to do anything.

      Because the seedbox has a direct connectivity then if there is a seed without a direct connectivity - it can connect to your seedbox (again, discovered through DHT or tracker) and give out all the needed chunks.

      A bit slower than having a direct connectivity at you home, but most of the time it doesn't matter.

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