Comment by gigatexal
3 years ago
This is off topic but how can Mullvad be a no log vpn and still operate without impunity? What about Uber illegal stuff like csam or terrorist stuff etc?
3 years ago
This is off topic but how can Mullvad be a no log vpn and still operate without impunity? What about Uber illegal stuff like csam or terrorist stuff etc?
Compare it for example to a company operating taxis that can be hailed on the street and be paid in cash on arrival. The company does not log any details about its passengers, nor does it inspect their luggage or inquire about their reason to travel. How can the taxi company still operate with impunity? What about passengers using them for uber illegal stuff, like transporting drugs, illegal arms, or for escaping from law enforcement?
You can still put the taxi driver on the stand. Most cabs are even equipped with cameras now.
This is more comparable to a taxi company which makes driver take a pill to forget all details on arrival. That would be harder to defend, after the first incident of "why was this car in my driveway last night? - we couldn't tell you!"
That is a terrible analogy because the information is inherently captured and you are talking about taking extraordinary measures to destroy evidence. It's also a failed conversational gambit because we end up discussing the bad analogy instead of the underlying issue.
In other news despite VPNs people who commit crimes are prosecuted all the time via ordinary police work per normal. In fact despite sophisticated tech criminals on average leave behind more breadcrumbs than they ever did in prior eras.
Generally it's not illegal to host services that could potentially be used for those things (as basically any online service with user generated content could be used for that), but it's illegal to not act once you have received complaints about it and not acted. Presumably, Mullvad does act when they get noticed about their service being used in those manners.
Do you think if VPNs became illegal in America that it would have any effect on terrorism or child abuse? People who don't care about violating little children don't care about violating the law.