Comment by MilStdJunkie

3 years ago

Something the post-Boomer generations have been talking about more and more: the fact that the "tune in, turn on" movement wasn't coming from inside the house, so to speak. The old leftists still get very defensive of their drug overuse, in spite of the fact that their "counterculture" had set back effective policy by generations. They had ceded the field to reactionaries and identitarians (both allies of capital, of course), the effects of which we're dealing with to this day.

The American security state - Pinkerton, etc - was created to deal with labor, and it was nearly-constantly trying to end-run around democratic oversight using whatever means it could: poisoning students with military-grade chemicals, allying with Luciano, squamming loins with notorious non-state actors (including actual Nazis), hiring squadrons of prostitutes, and on occasion - maybe, possibly - making some US citizens go away more permanently. Without even mentioning its adventures in the Americas at large. It's the height of schadenfreude we're living through a golden age of conspiracism without eyeballs on the horribly, horribly real historical conspiracies, who was behind them, and who continues to be.

> squamming loins

?!?! I looked it up, but there are too many definitions... https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Squam Is that a synonym for "knocking boots" ?!

  • Whoops. I had thought it to be merely some unfortunate onomatopoeia. It's awesome that the word has so many actual meanings, if informal ones. But yes, "a thing involving 'mutual loins' that sounds like 'squam'"

  • My guess is that OP did indeed mean "knocking boots" as a reference to Operation Paperclip, where the US government granted amnesty to a bunch of Nazi scientists in return for pivoting their research to US national security purposes.

    edit: source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

    • when I was growing up "knocking boots" meant have sex? (there was a whole rap song with that title). Which is what I assumed "squamming loins" was some british english version of.

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> very defensive of their drug overuse, in spite of the fact that their "counterculture" had set back effective policy by generations

But did people dislike the hippies because of their drug use, or did they dislike drug use because of the hippies?

  • The former, there's quite well documented pre WW2 historical evidence of writers being shocked at seeing drug abuse first hand.

And now everybody's on antidepressants.

Yes yes, it's a good thing according to good medical authority. But still, it's crassly dystopian too. Maybe we can thank "old leftist drug overuse" for normalizing us over that hump.