Comment by Oddskar
3 years ago
> People said the M1 Pros were overpriced
Yeah but most people aren't paying for those: their employers are.
I don't think many employers are going to buy such an expensive tool.
3 years ago
> People said the M1 Pros were overpriced
Yeah but most people aren't paying for those: their employers are.
I don't think many employers are going to buy such an expensive tool.
What? Millions of people have personal laptops that are M1+ Macbooks. For people who can afford it and aren't Linux people, why would you buy anything else?
(well some people have issues with buying things from Apple and I don't blame them but Microsoft is busy making Windows as unappealing as possible so Apple wins for me)
Do you really need me to spell it out for you?
Etc, etc. Plenty of reasons.
Have lots of layers, accountants, execs, and a few surgeons in the extended family, especially on my wife's side. Most of them use Macs as their personal computers, and some of them have already upgraded to M1 and M2 mac pros.
Lot's rich people out there, bro. Some of them probably suffered to adapt to Mac OS after years of using Windows, but since every new version of Windows is now a different OS from the UX perspective, they all adapted themselves to Mac OS, because they wouldn't want to be seen in an airport lounge or an expensive coffee answering their emails in plastic Samsung book.
Also, most people never upgraded their laptops, this is simply not an important selling point, and even less in the premium segment. Repairability? From the user's perspective, It is repairable, they have Apple Care, and they drop their broken laptop in a counter, and sometime later they collect a functioning laptop. And why they wouldn't like the hardware? The CPU is fast, it hardly ever heats enough to spin the fans, the screen is great, the keyboard now is good enough, and the touchpad is still probably the best one on the market.
Your plenty of reasons don't seem very solid to me.
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Er. I didn't try to argue everyone buys one. Just that 'most are bought by employers', as though people won't pay for them themselves, is obviously silly .
When do you think we'll get the first repairable and upgradable VR headset?
Who doesn’t like macos? Like it is objectively better than windows, and is able to actually work decently without set up pain (like linux)
Who doesn’t like the hardware? Now that the butterfly keyboard and dongles are gone, what is there to hate?
What is unrepairable about macbooks? It’s not an iphone, i ve replaced hard drives, fans and other components on a macbook countless times.
Who really wants an upgradable laptop? I’d give you desktop perhaps, but with laptops i struggle to see the usecase
The things you don’t actually mention, that certain software doesn’t run on mac (ironically used by mechies and industrial designers).
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I can't get over how badly MacOS works with external monitors; I have a fiddly 5ish minute Mac boot cycle process somedays because there it just refuses to output anything.
FWIW, that's really not the usual macOS experience with external monitors, and you should try doing standard connectivity troubleshooting like replacing the cable, etc.
I've been using multiple monitors (more than 1 simultaneously) with Macs forever; the experience has gotten smoother with the Apple Silicon Macs, but it worked OK on Intel, and PowerPC before that, and the old classic Macs before that.
Something is wrong with your monitor or your mac port or hopefully the cable. My m1 pro and air work perfectly with lg 5k display
The pace of renewal / refurbishment for work related and personal may not have the same frequency for most folks. Work laptops updated every 3 years approximately (at least in tech). Personal use may be 5-12 years. I bought a Macbook Pro in 2012 for myself. The next personal purchase I made was 2022 when I bought the mac mini. For everything else I used the computer which was given to me at work.
Depends very much on the person and the company, I've known many people in similar situations as you, but also many people (in business, rarely roles like developers) stuck on old, slow work laptops - even managers in companies like Dell - while having shiny new personal devices they'd bought themselves (and would, if their company allowed them, use those for work where possible - ofc companies like Dell that's a no-go, but many smaller companies are happy when their employees work on their own more expensive and more productive computer).
> Millions of people have personal laptops that are M1+ Macbooks
Yeah, but we are talking about Pros, not Airs.
Yeah people buy those too. Do you think they don't?
When my current MBP dies, I'll be buying the one with the latest chip on the market (although admittedly a lower spec version than I would presumably get from work --- but that's just because I'm not doing planning on doing huge compilations or video editing on it).