Comment by paxys
3 years ago
A bigger question is – does it support mouse input? Because none of their demos showed it, and without it the headset is basically dead on arrival for any real work.
3 years ago
A bigger question is – does it support mouse input? Because none of their demos showed it, and without it the headset is basically dead on arrival for any real work.
> You’re able to place multiple apps in the real world space and can type with either voice or a virtual keyboard, but you can also use Bluetooth keyboards and trackpads, and with a glance at your Mac, you can use it on a large virtual display.
https://www.macworld.com/article/1940428/apple-vision-pro-de...
My bigger worry is how I would type, if that's at all possible. My assumption, like the sibling comment notes, is that eye tracking would replace mouse input.
And I'm not yet typing code by talking to a computer. Maybe AI will work for 'typing' by talking and using copilot or some similar tech, but I've yet to try that and am not that confident that software has caught up to allow me to navigate folders and files within a codebase, edit the code, restart any servers if that's necessary, test (run tests, or visit a page, or send a curl request), post a pull request, etc. All of the disjoint steps I need to do to work, which change depending on the task, would need to work confidently in a system like this for me to switch over. And if speech is the way forward, I think my wife is going to be pretty upset with me since I WFH.
You can pair a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, it was shown in the keynote.
If I'm just going to use this sitting at my desk, I'll stick with my monitor instead.
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They're positioning this as a productivity product. You'll probably be able to just use a keyboard. Get ready to learn to type without looking at the keys I guess, but I think most people already can with only a few issues.
Imo most useful case for this is watching youtube in bed, I'd just keep a bluetooth keyboard/mouse on my nightstand.
"Get ready to learn to type without looking at the keys I guess"
Why wouldn't you be able to look at the keys? This is AR, you can see everything around you still, including a physical keyboard right in front of you.
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Did you say porn? I think you meant porn. Not YouTube.
The demo I saw showed a guy at a standing desk, using a Magic Keyboard and Magic Trackpad. I remember I grimaced thinking what his shoulders must feel like typing with his hands so close together on that tiny, shitty little keyboard. It made me think of little T-Rex arms.
The keys on the magic keyboard (and therefore hand positions) are no closer together than on other keyboards. It just doesn't have the numeric keypad part.
If you want an ergonomic keyboard with a gap in the middle, any bluetooth keyboard will work with a Mac, iPhone or iPad, so I imagine it would with this too.
Seems like they mentioned t-rex arms which are characteristic of non-ergo keyboards, all of which are generally terrible. I really wish Apple would just make a better version of the Sculpt now that MS is out of that game.
They showed a demo with Bluetooth touchpad (and keyboard) input.
They mentioned the magic trackpad, so I can't imagine a mouse wouldn't also work.
Maybe they will sell you an iGlove )in the future) to go along with this so that you can type / click on your virtual keyboard & mouse
They've already made it clear that you can do that without a glove... (as well as optionally using physical devices instead).
I want it to work with the original NES Power Glove, or I don't want it at all.
I don't think that's self-evident. If the eye tracking is really good, it could obviate the need for a mouse.
Why would it obviate the need for a mouse? I can focus on something and expect my cursor elsewhere. Especially in games
5 minutes with an existing eye tracker will show that this is completely infeasible. Your eyes move too much for it to work.
Perhaps you could use it to bring windows forward.
Because any time you're doing fine-grained work with your cursor, you're looking at it. I'm not talking about games.
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