Comment by barrkel

3 years ago

Bikes do annoy people with small children because some people try to ride bikes fast where not appropriate, and this is dangerous when small children change direction unpredictably.

In other words, absent any actual formal specified intent, people interpret the rules to best suit their own self-interest.

if you got kids at the park, you'd imagine bikes as being a nuisance. If you're the one riding the bike, you'd imagine the park is meant for you to enjoy and thus the boke isnt a nuisance.

This is exactly the point being made by the questionaire!

Or, small children annoy people with bikes, because some people try to take small children where not appropriate, and this is dangerous when small children change direction unpredictably.

  • Parks should not be inappropriate places for children.

    • So if child A starts hitting other children is it still appropriate for child A to be there?

      You're creating a hard and fast rule that X group should always be allowed, the parent was saying all groups should behave reasonably towards each other.

      I think the parents view is more reasonable. You could still take the view that bikes will always be dangerous to children, at that point you can then decide whether to prioritise children or bikes.

    • There are all kinds of parks. I would argue you should probably not be letting a 5 year old loose on a biking path which would seem to me to mean it is an inappropriate place for (some) children.

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Those people get annoyed by everything and try to impose on people and prevent joy in the world.

Bikes riding fast in parks and murdering children does not happen anywhere at any significant scale. It's a made up fear, just like the "stranger danger" of the past.

Anger at cyclists for driving fast and breaking laws is an emotional response to feeling jealous that bikes are zipping past them while they're sitting there waiting in traffic for 10 minutes at a red light.

How often do you see motorists get pissed off and honk at other motorists running a red or yellow on a left hand turn? They want people to break the law in that instance but will honk at cyclists for the most minor of transgressions. That's all they proof I need to conclude motorists don't give a shit about the law or safety (the classic I just want cyclists to follow the law because if they don't I can hurt them and I'll have to live with a guilty conscience! defense) and care more about reducing their travel times.