Comment by elif

3 years ago

Your attempt at making it black and white fails. When you say "obviously police and ambulances (and fire trucks) doing their jobs don't have to follow the sign."

Does this mean that if police are code 2 en route to a crime 10 miles away they can use the park to save time? What if they are code 3?

Part of doing the job of firefighter includes conducting drills. Can they choose the park as their drill environment?

Further, even if they are responding to a crime in the park, are police allowed to drive on the sidewalk because someone has broken the littering ordinance?

Even ignoring these grey areas and focusing on your own statement, there is a philosophical dilemma. Are the first responders who "don't have to follow" an inherent part of the rule, or is the rule absolute and they are merely permitted to break it? in either case, by legal or by social convention?

just an FYI (going out on a limb) but nobody knows what this even means "Does this mean that if police are code 2 en route to a crime 10 miles away they can use the park to save time? What if they are code 3?"

if you could either explain the lingo or dial it down, that would be great for the rest of us to understand your argument

  • Code 2 means emergency vehicles are responding to an emergency, have their lights and sirens on, and are thus permitted to violate traffic rules.

    Code 3 means that emergency vehicles are responding to a non-emergency, backup for a scene which is mostly under control, etc. But it is not urgent enough to warrant lights or sirens.

    • In practice, of course, cops will flick their lights on when they want to run a red light instead of waiting.

      So of course they drive through the park whenever they want.

    • The terms you are using are not universal, and in the United States “Code 3” typically mean lights and siren, and “Code 2” typically means lights but no siren.

      Best to avoid jargon.