Comment by endisneigh
2 years ago
It’s not the same thing but you can currently buy novamin and nano hydroxyapatite based pastes which help to remineralize enamel (they do not regrown teeth completely).
On the note of dental hygiene I recommend, in addition to the standard stuff:
1. Rising your mouth with water immediately after eating. If you’re at a restaurant just drink some water, swish rigorously for 15 seconds and swallow.
2. Flossing regularly soon after eating. Couple with a water flosser if possible.
Have you seen your enamel improve using those? I've used a Sensodyne one for a year with zero results and switched back. My dentist seemed unsurprised by those results, so the effect is probably miniscule in general if there's any at all.
I'll offer another point in support of your experience. I purchased the non-US Sensodyne, verified it had Novamin, used the entire tube as directed with no water drinking for at least half an hour afterward, and saw zero results.
Unless you bought the foreign one you didn’t get novamin. Try again with David’s with uses nano hydroxyapatite and can be bought in the USA
Well I'm in Europe, so I'm not sure if I can buy the same ones. It had novamin listed on the packaging ingredients so unless they're blatantly lying, it had it.
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Yes. Sensodyne is worthless in my experience, but brushing with a toothpaste I bought in Japan to restore enamel really worked. It had very immediate effects and my teeth kept the protective enamel even after I ran out.
Yep that'll happen depending where you live.
Sensodyne has a bioglass (sometimes called hydroxyapatite, NOVAMIN, or Biomin) which is what you are describing however it's excluded from the Sensodyne sold in the US. The reason why is a long story [1] but if you want "good" Sensodyne you have to import it from literally anywhere else or buy a no-flouride biomin version (made by Dr. Collins who decided to go through the FDA process) in the US. Both are luckily pretty easy to get on Amazon however there's a bit of a markup.
1. https://medium.com/@ravenstine/the-curious-history-of-novami...
Could you provide more information, like a brand name?
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For me, this kind of toothpaste was much worse for sensitivity than a high-fluoride toothpaste you can get prescribed by your dentist. (It's a prescription, but it's inexpensive.)
The bioglass toothpastes (i.e. the ones that contain NOVAMIN or Biomin) are doing something different than high-flouride toothpastes.
The biolgass ones aren't really "restoring enamel" but they "refill" (remineralise) the enamel with all the minerals that slowly leach out before the enamel actually wears away.
The flouride toothpastes act by hardening the structures those other minerals make up which increases the resistance of your teeth.
They both do different things but they work well together. In the US you won't find them both in the same toothpaste (only Biomin C/without flouride is FDA approved) but outside the US you can find Sensodyne with NOVAMIN and flouride as well as Biomin F (with flouride).
So depending where you live, you might want to give them another shot but making sure you use both bioglass and flouride (I personally do a dot on my toothbrush of both Dr. Collins Biomin Restore and Colgate PreviDent 1.1% NaF 5% KNO3). At least for me it has worked a lot better than just doing one or the other.
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For sensitivity specifically, check out one that has arginine in it, it blocks the dentin tubules.
https://www.colgateprofessional.com/dentist-resources/caries...
They've worked for me several times over the years when I had sensitivity issues. Takes a month or so to notice and you should be careful not to drink water for a while after you use them.
You’re not supposed to drink water or use mouth wash for a while after using fluoride toothpaste either.
There are various sensodyne pastes. The one with novamin (in Europe) is called "repair and protect
> Couple with a water flosser if possible.
Aren't they generally less effective than flossing with threads?
Nah basically the same
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8236551/
I’d still use both as the abrasive action is likely to catch some things water cannot. And water able to reach areas more easily string cannot.
Novamin is not really better than fluoride, from when I looked at the studies.
Nano hydroxyapatite combined with fluoride has a little bit better evidence for it being better than fluoride alone.
You want the 10% concentration, studies show that's most effective.
Where can you buy said pastes or products in the USA?
I like Dr jens super paste, it was one of the only ones I was able to find that has the 10% concentration that's been shown most effective in clinical trials. Apagard Royal does too but that's pricier
Nothing has worked for me so far but just discovered Dr Jens so I'm hopeful and glad to see it worked for you!
You can get the Indian version of sensodyne with novamin on Amazon. It’s not particularly cheap though.
Doesn't this also happen from just eating?
Excellent question: I would also like to know the benefits of brushing without toothpaste vs with toothpaste.
Irrelevant anecdote: I had cavities as a preteen but none after. My dental hygiene is non rigorous brushing at least once a day, more if a tooth begins to feel sensitive. Last dentist visit 20 years ago.